2011-05-05 Thursday Meeting
Attending: Brian, Ola, Will, Donald, Jean-Marie, Josh, Melissa, Chris, Scott, Simon, Andrew, Carlos, Jason (a bit late)
Agenda
Remember: Agenda must be complete (with estimated times) on the day before the meeting. Any additions after that must go at the bottom (AOCB)
Apologies: Andrew - I may have to leave early.
Accepting minutes from last meeting
Matters Arising (<10 mins)
- Everyone: Go through tickets. Be realistic for end of this sprint on Thursday
- Will: Respond to Perrine about his OME-XML question on [ome-users]
Generating sprint # (45 mins)
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Feature Status
- Big images
- 4.3 DB - any changes?
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Ticket status
- Did we get our backlog down?
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FYI: tasks left per sprint
- Sprint: 2011-05-05 (11) (19 matches)
- Sprint: 2011-05-19 (12) (58 matches)
- Sprint: 2011-06-02 (13) (6 matches)
- Sprint: 2011-06-16 (14) (1 match)
- Sprint: None (157 matches)
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Feature Status
Email and Forum Review - checked at 10:30 (5 mins)
Email - Carnë Draug [ome-users] Changing /services/OMERO/home for OMERO.importer
Forums -
QA -
linkID Status User/email Type Created Selected file Comment Error 3730 new morelli@mpi-... Insight 4.2.2 2011 05 04 - - java.lang.Exception: Abno... 3729 new lim_soon_yew... Web 4.2.2-r871 2011 05 04 - - Traceback (most recent ca... 3728 new shawn.garbet... Importer 4.2.2-r871 2011 05 03 Experiment.exp I decided that getting that on... java.lang.RuntimeExceptio... 3727 new jacques.pecr... Web 4.2.2-r871 2011 05 03 - Annotation was created using t... Traceback (most recent ca... 3724 new shawn.garbet... Importer 4.2.3-DEV- 2011 05 02 Experiment.exp This build on an import crashe... Ice.ConnectionLostExcepti... 3723 new jacques.pecr... Insight 4.2.2 2011 05 02 - - java.lang.Exception: org.... 3722 new jacques.pecr... Insight 4.2.2 2011 05 02 - - java.lang.Exception: org.... 3721 new jacques.pecr... Web 4.2.2-r871 2011 05 02 - Bug obtained when linking mult... Traceback (most recent ca...
Any other business (<5 mins)
In Attendance
Brian, Ola, Will, Donald, Jean-Marie, Josh, Melissa, Chris, Scott, Simon, Andrew, Carlos, Jason (a bit late)
Notes
Accepting minutes from last meeting
- Accepted
Matters Arising (<10 mins)
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Everyone: Go through tickets. Be realistic for end of this sprint on Thursday
- Still lots of tickets without owners. 157 without a sprint.
- Many of those are for testing (40-50)
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Will: Respond to Perrine about his OME-XML question on [ome-users]
- Done
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Everyone: Go through tickets. Be realistic for end of this sprint on Thursday
Generating sprint # (45 mins)
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Jean-Marie: Sprints 9 & 10 didn't have any screenshots
- Can add some big image
- Jason: agreed, good idea, hugely valuable. Have to keep an eye on it.
- Josh: searching HDF files? No reason not to.
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Feature Status
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Big images (5 min; start 14:09)
- Down to the last 1 of the problems mentioned before - working on this now
- i.e. generating extra compressed content for low rez
- metadata imports are all working (2900, 5099)
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SVS & Trestle files will now do an archive based import
- 5098 (min/max) for this still being worked on by Colin (then functional)
- To improve performance need to get threading working with this
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4.3 DB - any changes?
- Josh: any other changes coming, or can we s/4.3DEV/4.3/?
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Andrew: fonts?
- Jean-Marie: values will be lazily updated from the measurement tool
- Chris: Subtle model for screens done. (didn't put restriction on fields)
- Postgres 8.1 restriction is in as an error (instead of old warning)
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Big images (5 min; start 14:09)
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Ticket status
- Did we get our backlog down?
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FYI: tasks left per sprint
- Sprint: 2011-05-05 (11) (19 matches)
- Sprint: 2011-05-19 (12) (58 matches)
- Sprint: 2011-06-02 (13) (6 matches)
- Sprint: 2011-06-16 (14) (1 match)
- Sprint: None (157 matches)
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Discussion
- Josh: About 100 tickets (157 minus the testing ones) that need to be answered for
- JMB: May not be able to get those into 4.3
- JMB: Suggest one small iteration for adding and one small for testing
- Will: haven't we tried this before? JMB: weren't strict enough.
- JMB: We have lots of little things (half a day or less) that could be done. We keep skipping these
- Jason: Would be nice to clean up frayed edges - makes sense
- Jason: finish 4.3.0 on which calendar date? * JMB: sprint 13, June 7th should be done (for Paris) * JMB: sprint 14 could perhaps be the start of 4.3.1 * Chris: 4 weeks of total work not including Paris trip
- Jason (to keep in mind) * After major release, bugs will be coming in * Paris will be a lot of prep work (at least a week) * Scott: Martin's trip in June/July also to consider * Will: Is it vital for us to fix the time for release? * Chris: Overdue for a release (so folks don't need to download hudson builds) * JMB: We have features 6 months old that need releasing! (e.g. the OMERO.ij issue) * Jason: tickets which are the difference between there being a barrier and not. * Jason: Sounds reasonable to go ahead with JMB's proposal, will have to manage this * ie: hand out tasks where needed from pool of tickets remaining * Will: do we expect everyone to upgrade 2-3 times? Will we provide enough features? * Jason: in 4.3 we're addressing 2 major defects in OMERO/BF * Forget PM view for second. What's important is what it does * A. Both are defective for big images, and frequency of that data is increasing * B. Need to solve data duplication issue. Places out there that could use this * Also, imageJ links not done and should be * Finally, if there's a technical reason we can move the deadline back * but we must start meeting our deadlines for community * small point fixes are ok afterwards but need functionality out there * Scott: another reason to have automatic updates * JMB/Chris: Still need to be careful - a complexed issue with model, api, etc. * JMB: Proposal accepted, will set up a short iteration for low hanging fruit * Jason: Will's point is correct that users are sensitive to frequent updates and release schedules * But (Scott) let's use Paris to guage that sensitivity
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Documentation changes
- Will updated front page of the trac
- More diagram changes are coming from Will
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Should the front page of the trac be OMERO centric, or balanced between all OME tools?
- Jason: Would try to make it as universal as possible
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JMB: Maybe a few icons at the top of the page for each sub-project
- Will: Makes sense; can do that
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Chris: date of turning off ome-xml.org
- JMB: shoola trac can be shut down
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Chris: Entry point for Bio-formats? Still have some content on the LOCI trac
- Melissa: Most moved over, mostly auto-generated metadata docs left
- Chris: Could in principle move that then as well and close LOCI trac
- Andrew: may want to close off some of our other sites names as well (ex: dev-www.o…)
- Chris: should make them hard redirects
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Chris: SVN source, revision, ticket numbers in OME trac
- Brian did regex replaces and sent to nitpick
- Josh: Convert rABCD to git?
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Chris: Should we go through the effort?
- Can do lookups by scripting through git
- More work with some scripting
- JMB: Not sure we should bother. If mostly on workplan pages, these are going to be deleted
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Chris: Josh also suggested we link to git web instead of source links
- Could do this universally; better way.
- currently, source:ome.git is tied to develop branch and can't currently be changed
- Josh: most importantly in the IncludeMacro
- Will: Would like to know more about how to use the source include macros for wiki examples
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Andrew: Will have to look at the autogenerated ome-xml examples and how to make them work
- Could go back to cron job
- JMB: There are a few examples of other 'pre-config' options that should be done as well
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Jean-Marie: Sprints 9 & 10 didn't have any screenshots
Email and Forum Review - checked at 10:30 (5 mins)
Email - Carnë Draug [ome-users] Changing /services/OMERO/home for OMERO.importer
Forums -
QA -
linkID Status User/email Type Created Selected file Comment Error 3730 new morelli@mpi-... Insight 4.2.2 2011 05 04 - - java.lang.Exception: Abno... 3729 new lim_soon_yew... Web 4.2.2-r871 2011 05 04 - - Traceback (most recent ca... 3728 new shawn.garbet... Importer 4.2.2-r871 2011 05 03 Experiment.exp I decided that getting that on... java.lang.RuntimeExceptio... 3727 new jacques.pecr... Web 4.2.2-r871 2011 05 03 - Annotation was created using t... Traceback (most recent ca... 3724 new shawn.garbet... Importer 4.2.3-DEV- 2011 05 02 Experiment.exp This build on an import crashe... Ice.ConnectionLostExcepti... 3723 new jacques.pecr... Insight 4.2.2 2011 05 02 - - java.lang.Exception: org.... 3722 new jacques.pecr... Insight 4.2.2 2011 05 02 - - java.lang.Exception: org.... 3721 new jacques.pecr... Web 4.2.2-r871 2011 05 02 - Bug obtained when linking mult... Traceback (most recent ca...
Any other business (<5 mins)
- ICY: evaluated. few issues with versions (talking to nightshade)
Action Items
- Andrew: Add ticket and/or close ome-xml.org
- Melissa: Add ticket and/or create bioformats landing page (auto-generated content, etc)
- Andrew: figure out how to filter other ome.org.* domains from google
- Brian: figure out how many revision counts outside of WorkPlan
- Brian: Convert all ome.git links to source links
- Andrew: find different autogenerated ome-xml examples setup
- Brian: email Carne about OMERO.importer log file (let him know not currently configurable)
- Brian: email Shawn (QA) about recurring issue