2011-05-19 Thursday Meeting
Attending: Brian, Ola, Will, Donald, Jean-Marie, Carlos, Josh, Melissa, Jason, Chris, Colin, Scott, Simon, ... Mike Rossner
Agenda
Remember: Agenda must be complete (with estimated times) on the day before the meeting. Any additions after that must go at the bottom (AOCB)
Accepting minutes from last meeting
Matters Arising (<10 mins)
- Chris: fix OMERO.clients build
- Ola: Upgrade server and email folks each morning
- Scott: send an email clarifying where to create tickets (RFE, BUG, ...)
- Andrew: Handle logistics for getting Mac RAM upgraded
- Everyone: When completed your importing test (and bug tickets created), you can close your task
- Reminder: Everyone make sure you grab the latest clients daily
- Curtis: Send info for imagej-devel mailing list so folks can join
Schema release, code generation and model impact; lessons learned (5 mins)
OME Mtg Agenda (5 min)
New project positions (5 mins)
Generating sprint # (45 mins)
- What New Tasks were added to old sprint
- What Tasks are left in old sprint
- Make new sprint
- Estimates
- Close old sprint and move other tasks into new sprint
- Review bugs that already might be for future milestone.
- Ensure the correct information is added to a bug.
- Revisions to the way the bugs are submitted now under 5369 or 5371. These Will continue to change as we move through each testing phase.
- All updates on trac front page.
Email and Forum Review - checked at (5 mins)
Email - none unanswered in past week
Forums -
QA -
linkID Status User/email Type Created Selected file Comment Error 3746 new ajpatterson@... Web 4.3.0-DEV- 2011 05 19 - Selecting date in callender. Traceback (most recent ca... 3744 new unknown Insight 4.2.1 2011 05 18 - - java.lang.Exception: java... 3738 new alpaka.mahle... Insight 4.2.2 2011 05 16 - - java.lang.Exception: java... 3735 new lnierobi@ncc... Insight 4.2.2 2011 05 12 - - java.lang.Exception: org.... 3734 new unknown Web 4.3.0-DEV- 2011 05 10 - from scott the bug you asked m... Traceback (most recent ca... 3727 new jacques.pecr... Web 4.2.2-r871 2011 05 03 - Annotation was created using t... Traceback (most recent ca... 3721 new jacques.pecr... Web 4.2.2-r871 2011 05 02 - Bug obtained when linking mult... Traceback (most recent ca...
Any other business (<5 mins)
In Attendance
- Brian, Ola, Will, Donald, Jean-Marie, Carlos, Josh, Melissa, Jason, Chris, Colin, Scott, Simon, ... Mike Rossner
Notes
Accepting minutes from last meeting
- ACCEPTED
Matters Arising (<10 mins)
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Chris: fix OMERO.clients build - PENDING
- Building sporatically. Dependency builds are causing an issue. Need to spend time figuring out best way to fix
- For the moment will just leave it alone. We all know where to get the clients.
- Jason: Need to make sure we have links for the right location to front page of trac
- Ola: Upgrade server and email folks each morning - DONE
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Scott: send an email clarifying where to create tickets (RFE, BUG, ...)
- JMB: Moved some tickets from phase 1 to a related bug story
- Andrew: Handle logistics for getting Mac RAM upgraded - WAITING ON REPLIES FROM FOLKS
- Everyone: When completed your importing test (and bug tickets created), you can close your task - IN PROGRESS
- Reminder: Everyone make sure you grab the latest clients daily - DONE (SEE BELOW ACTION ITEMS FOR CHANGES)
- Curtis: Send info for imagej-devel mailing list so folks can join - SENT EMAIL OUT
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Will: Need to arrange testing of web mobile and (wording for release? Are we releasing?) DONE
- Made a testing scenario
- Jason will take it
- Andrew: set up autogenerated ome-xml and get Chris to set up Cron on necromancer DONE
- Scott: add developer testing stories: "go to scripting page, and do X, ..." INPROGRESS
- Josh: first RC release next Thursday. Corresponding to Scott's testing phases. ONGOING
- Andrew: order a hi-res projector PENDING
- Brian: manual fixes to workplan PENDING
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Chris: fix OMERO.clients build - PENDING
Schema release, code generation and model impact; lessons learned (5 mins)
- Chris: discussed over lunch
- have had to add several things to generation
- will need to verify server/model/database to make sure we're in sync
- in the future, it is critical to have model & schema finalized weeks before freeze
- "what is the exhaustive list of changes?" didn't exist.
- even if it's just an internal release, has to be set.
- Smallest schema change impacts the entire code base * Bio-Formats, import, export, big images, etc.
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Jason: mgmt issue, the work wasn't scheduled, etc.
- Andrew: Really the schema freeze should be a month ahead of time
- JMB: Should have release candidate, etc. A real schedule.
- Jason: release schedule needs to be set in stone before hand, and influence vacations, etc.
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Andrew: Schema pages are on the right place in the devel branch
- validator in right place but needs fixing (not working)
OME Mtg Agenda (5 min)
- Good registrations for Paris
- Need less overview and more details presented from the development team
- Also outside users/developers who have valid things to present
- Jason will see about doing a draft agenda based on upcoming user presentations
- Dinners will be buffet style, but with some seating for folks to talk
- AGREED: not going out to eat the first night, but staying in.
New project positions (5 mins)
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Jason: Project manager position is now public
- Space issues arriving. Jason is looking to deal with that.
- Big (admin) challenge dealing with new satellite setups.
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Jason: Project manager position is now public
Generating sprint # (45 mins)
Pre-discussion
- Revisions to the way the bugs are submitted now under 5369 or 5371. These Will continue to change as we move through each testing phase.
- All updates on trac front page.
Big images (Chris): 2 big items in next sprint; 1 in current
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Finalizing default thumbnails
- When thumbnailing you should not be able to detect (other then color) if the thumbnail is missing
- Needs a placeholder to replace 'blue thumbnail'
- Arithmetic issues with JP2 for small tile sizes
- Enabling multi-threaded compression for pyramid generation
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Adding metrics to generation so folks now how long to expect
- Seems to be fairly linear
- Should be able to show this in clients
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Finalizing default thumbnails
JMB: A lot of folks jamming everything into the current sprint
- Josh: We got past the 50% mark so some success
- Far fewer big tickets left now, but many without assigned times. Need fixes
- Tester should assign ticket to fixer, fixer should then handle them (handed off, assigned, etc)
- Jason: added responsibility is to evaluate bugs as they come in - ideally daily
- Jason: part of the morning process? upgrade, clients, and tickets? Sounds good. Has to happen.
- Chris: We should add alias for 'web team' for ownership of web items.
- Scott: Be aware of bugs that are being created that might already be accomodated by future work
- JMB: Lets be careful of pushing bugs out of 4.3 if they are small, we should try to make them in
JMB: When creating new tickets without a sprint, will end up in report 11 (future tasks). Folks should keep an eye on that.
Testing
- JMB: don't want to keep dragging on tickets
- Jason: in initial testing, very few bugs
- But it's hard to know what servers/clients/etc.
- Go back to testing phase mid of next week.
- JMB: 2 days max for scenarios
- Need to be specific in scenarios (e.g. "tool tips are saying different things")j
- Should put estimates on the test scenarios so we know what it will take each person
- Jason: Do we want a release candidate right now? Not yet.
- Scott: assign a particular importer per tester
Email and Forum Review - checked at (5 mins)
- Email - none unanswered in past week
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Forums -
- Re: cannot login to webadmin or insigt/importer after XP ins
- Re: Multiple export of images?
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Re: out of memory error
- This user wants to get a preview of big images, which coincides with Jason's visit to that lab in the near future
- Chris will prepare an email about upcoming screencast video for him
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QA -
link- 3746 new ajpatterson@... Web 4.3.0-DEV- 2011 05 19 - Selecting date in callender. Traceback (most recent ca...
- 3744 new unknown Insight 4.2.1 2011 05 18 - - java.lang.Exception: java...
- 3738 new alpaka.mahle... Insight 4.2.2 2011 05 16 - - java.lang.Exception: java...
- 3735 new lnierobi@ncc... Insight 4.2.2 2011 05 12 - - java.lang.Exception: org....
- 3734 new unknown Web 4.3.0-DEV- 2011 05 10 - from scott the bug you asked m... Traceback (most recent ca...
- 3727 new jacques.pecr... Web 4.2.2-r871 2011 05 03 - Annotation was created using t... Traceback (most recent ca...
- 3721 new jacques.pecr... Web 4.2.2-r871 2011 05 02 - Bug obtained when linking mult... Traceback (most recent ca...
Any other business (<5 mins)
Action Items
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Ola: When updating server, go to insight trunk and omero trunk and set latest build to QA,
- Then update everyone with info (by email or trac)
- JMB: Fix trac front page based on the above changes (by email now)
- Will: assign web-mobile testing scenario to Jason
- Andrew: add to agenda TODO list "copy PENDING to new action items" - done
- Andrew: add ticket for validator
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JMB: Need a release plan page on the wiki (Andrew: should make it generic to be copy/pasted per release)
- Andrew: add "schema freeze" to release schedule documentation page
- Josh: use or delete "ReleaseProcess" from wiki
- Andrew: post CLS vacancy on webpage, lists, forums (http://www.lifesci.dundee.ac.uk/vacancies/2011/05/16/project-manager) - done
- GUI teams: implement or ticket showing MissingPyramidException.backOff to users.
- Scott: start Phase II (import only) once Melissa signs off on changes.
- Scott: add times next to scenarios.
- Everyone: record scenarios
- Chris: reply to forum user re: big images and preparing a screencast video for him.