2011-01-13 Thursday Meeting
Attending: Brian, Andrew, Scott, Will, Ola, Jean-Marie, Josh, Melissa, Carlos
Agenda
Remember: Agenda must be complete (with estimated times) on the day before the meeting. Any additions after that must go at the bottom (AOCB)
Accepting minutes from last meeting
Matters Arising (<10 mins)
- Josh: Review community about Ice 3.4. Where do we stand?
- Josh: Write to ome-devel about git
- Brian: produce tickets for people to review docs
- Scott: send link to conference.
- Josh: Chgrp & designing new model object converters. Do we have time now?
- Josh: Acquisition date nullability issue
- Josh: search bridge for protocols
Generating sprint # (45 mins)
- Previous iterations review report.
Email and Forum Review - checked at (5 mins)
Email -
- [ome-users] OME to OMERO - Christopher Wood
Forums -
QA -
linkID Status User/email Type Created Selected file Comment Error 3126 new hms-support@... Web 4.2.2-r871 2011 01 07 - I was attempting to add _publi... Traceback (most recent ca... 3119 new p.pomorski@n... QA 2011 01 05 - - - 3083 new peter.ciesie... Importer 4.2.0-DEV 2010 12 21 195C7_b_A000_6.5k.tif I tried to import 66 tiff file... java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOf... 3080 new n.y.patel@du... QA 2010 12 16 - - - 3074 new n.hattersley... Insight 4.2.1 2010 12 13 - projecting files - was doing m... java.lang.Exception: org.... 3073 new glyn.nelson@... Importer 4.2.2-r871 2010 12 13 ...i_composite_flatrainbowRGB.jpg was a largish jpg that failed java.lang.RuntimeExceptio... 3072 new glyn.nelson@... Importer 4.2.2-r871 2010 12 13 ...i_composite_flatrainbowRGB.jpg was a largish jpg that failed java.lang.RuntimeExceptio... 3071 new glyn.nelson@... Insight 4.2.2 2010 12 13 - trying to change the colour on... java.lang.Exception: org.... 3070 new unknown Importer 4.2.2-r871 2010 12 10 101007_EGFR_Ab_test_E07.pnl - java.io.FileNotFoundExcep... 3068 new glyn.nelson@... Importer 4.2.2-r871 2010 12 10 ...s_senSODcat_3h_L1_L9_tiled.tif first time user, so may be my ... omero.InternalException ...
Any other business (<5 mins)
Notes
Accepted minutes from last meeting
Matters Arising (<10 mins)
- Josh: Review community about Ice 3.4. Where do we stand? (PUSHING FORWARD TO TUES)
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Josh: Write to ome-devel about git
- Was waiting on feedback from team.
- Josh will send soon.
- Brian: produce tickets for people to review docs (DONE)
- Scott: send link to conference. (DONE - should have alfresco presentation next Tuesday)
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Josh: Chgrp & designing new model object converters. Do we have time now? (TABLED for next Tuesday)
- Josh: Committed some work for export this morning
- Josh: Should have some of the changegroup stuff done soon
- Josh: Need to write a bunch of object wrappers and will need volunteers (needs discussion)
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Ola: Is this just for objects or also for experimenters?
- Josh: Just for objects right now, but eventually everything
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Josh: Acquisition date nullability issue
- Either we need a new field or to make this field nullable - needs discussion (TABLED for next week)
- Jean-Marie: Related to editability of metadata. History of where values come from.
- Jean-Marie: will there be other fields that they want tracked?
- Josh: that's certainly the direction we want to take, but can we take intermediate steps without getting ourselves in trouble?
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Josh: search bridge for protocols (TABLED for next week)
- Needs scheduling
Generating sprint
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Jean-Marie & Josh: started evaluating the sprint
- Various scripts to see how we're doing
- Several things need to be improved on
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Jean-Marie: naming sprints.
- we're currently at sprint 23. but just started 4.3 milestone
- everyone ok to re-start the count?
- Jean-Marie: restarting number lets us see how far along we are in each release
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Next sprints:
- Jean-Marie: Lets add one extra sprint (one months worth of sprints) so we can plan further ahead
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Andrew: why is it bad to carry tickets forward?
- Josh: goal is to make estimates and then measure to see if it was good
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Size of tickets should be between 0.25 and 2
- Anything larger then 2 should probably be a story with multiple sub-tickets
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Need to make sure we're not leaving things 'in progress' - this messes up metrics
- We should be comparing 'in progress' time against our estimate
- We need to get better at closing stories - open too long!
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Ola: any way to say "working on this 50%"?
- Josh: probably not. just move it back and forth from central column.
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Jean-Marie: Need to make sure we have tickets related to each commit.
- Don't commit something without a related ticket
- Make tickets for non-code related tasks as well
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QA: Need to make sure we track and complete these tasks quickly (within 2 days?)
- Josh: We should clean up all bugs and do them as soon as possible when they come in
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Tickets/tasks:
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Web
- Ola: refactoring of methods (#3649, #3650)
- Will: also trying to do selenium testing (#3299)
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Documentation
- Brian: Assign existing story (#3592) + tickets to this sprint
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Scott
- investigations on-going
- Jean-Marie: ok if ticket is in "waiting"
- Josh: like "unavailable" portion of a iCal event
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Andrew
- XSLT Downgrade: One done, other is problematic
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LOCI trac
- Melissa: going through and updating tickets with sprints - will send us results
- http://dev.loci.wisc.edu/trac/software/query?status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&order=priority&col=id&col=summary&col=status&col=type&col=priority&col=milestone&col=component&keywords=~sprint-1
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Carlos
- Working with Ola (reviewing code with her)
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Big images Web?
- No discussion
- Josh: Perhaps need to discussion on Monday and get tickets into sprint
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Carlos: API available?
- Josh: some has been committed
- Need to work in parallel
- Jean-Marie: Hopefully we can use the data we collect in Agilo to see where we need help
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Web
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Jean-Marie & Josh: started evaluating the sprint
Email & Forums
Email -
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[ome-users] OME to OMERO - Christopher Wood
- Not possible generically.
- Requires custom work.
- Andrew: Does he have any SAs?
- Josh: Regardless, still a lot of work
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[ome-users] OME to OMERO - Christopher Wood
Forums -
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Re: Importing colors
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Melissa is reviewing: Believes format tools fixes this
- Will doesn't think so
- Will is going to recheck and work with Melissa on this (See #3668)
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Melissa is reviewing: Believes format tools fixes this
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Re: Querying the external XML file (written by OMERO.editor)
- This is the Bridging issue mentioned by Josh earlier. Can spend some time on docs here.
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Re: Using OME data formats in a C# imaging app
- Converation without us! (We will leave them be for now)
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Re: Importing colors
QA -
linkID Status User/email Type Created Selected file Comment Error 3126 new hms-support@... Web 4.2.2-r871 2011 01 07 - I was attempting to add _publi... Traceback (most recent ca... 3119 new p.pomorski@n... QA 2011 01 05 - - - 3083 new peter.ciesie... Importer 4.2.0-DEV 2010 12 21 195C7_b_A000_6.5k.tif I tried to import 66 tiff file... java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOf... 3080 new n.y.patel@du... QA 2010 12 16 - - - 3074 new n.hattersley... Insight 4.2.1 2010 12 13 - projecting files - was doing m... java.lang.Exception: org.... 3073 new glyn.nelson@... Importer 4.2.2-r871 2010 12 13 ...i_composite_flatrainbowRGB.jpg was a largish jpg that failed java.lang.RuntimeExceptio... 3072 new glyn.nelson@... Importer 4.2.2-r871 2010 12 13 ...i_composite_flatrainbowRGB.jpg was a largish jpg that failed java.lang.RuntimeExceptio... 3071 new glyn.nelson@... Insight 4.2.2 2010 12 13 - trying to change the colour on... java.lang.Exception: org.... 3070 new unknown Importer 4.2.2-r871 2010 12 10 101007_EGFR_Ab_test_E07.pnl - java.io.FileNotFoundExcep... 3068 new glyn.nelson@... Importer 4.2.2-r871 2010 12 10 ...s_senSODcat_3h_L1_L9_tiled.tif first time user, so may be my ... omero.InternalException ...
AOCB
- Nothing
Action Items
* Git review on Tuesday
* Josh: Review community about Ice 3.4. Where do we stand?
* Josh: Send email to ome-devel about git
* Josh (Discussion): Chgrp & designing new model object converters (See notes from last Thursday)
* Josh (Discussion): Acquisition date nullability issue (See notes from last Thursday)
* Josh (Discussion): search bridge for protocols (See notes from last Thursday)
* Jean-Marie: renumber sprints.
* Ola: create a QA account for Scott
* Review Tuesday trac policies and then write them on process list
* Web: discuss big images on Monday
* Josh: talk to Christopher Wood re: OME to OMERO
* Melissa/Will: follow up on import colors (see ticket #3668). Update forum with ticket number
* Josh: Update docs on bridging issue for querying external xml forum issue
* Brian: go through all import QAs
* Brian: For QA testing, if a fail happens should be added to test_images_qa
Actions carried forward to next Tuesday
GIT
* C) To find out our timeline...
* How (and by when) do we decide if we are moving?
* How (and by when) do we decide when we are moving?
* When do we contact the lists? How long do they need to have?
* Do we turn off svn and test first? When?
* D) To define how we work...
* See <http://users.openmicroscopy.org.uk/~jmoore/git/workfows.html>
* Do we allow/encourage/force use of github? gitweb? (i.e. how do we share with other developers?)
* Do we have one central repository? Handle merges yourself.
* Do we have an integration manager who handles merges?
* Does something like "dictator & lieutenants" make sense (perhaps later)?
* Do we use git-flow? Something more or less strict? Build/extend our own?
* Do we need to buy any GUI tools?
* Do we mirror git to svn? (Added after meeting)