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2012-05-01 Tuesday Meeting

Josh (notes), Elwood (notes), Chris, Jason, Andrew, Blazej, Colin, Dom, Emma, Graeme, Jean-Marie, Melissa, Gus, Roger, Sebastien, Will, Stick

Remember: Agenda must be complete (with estimated times) on the day before the meeting. Any additions after that must go at the bottom (AOCB)

Housekeeping Pre-Meeting - 2pm Start

  1. Matters Arising (<10 mins)

    • Liza: Splash screen with OME and OMERO on it somehow DONE
    • Roger: Send documentation about Activision annotations DONE
  2. Email and Forum Review - checked at 10:09(5 mins)

    • Email -

      • Harri Jäälinoja - [ome-users] pgpool-II with OMERO?
      • Joe Ping-Lin Hsiao - Re: [ome-users] Compile BF-ITK-pipe on Windows
      • Dr. Juergen helmers - Re: [ome-users] importing HCS data as a screen
      • Forwarded messages: [ome-users] Fwd: Feedback on the use of OME in MATLAB/MRC/CCP4 format
    • Forums -

    • QA -
      link

          ID  Status  User/email  Type    Created Selected file   Comment Error
          4310    new m.porter@dun... Insight 4.3.3   2012 04 30  -   I just created a project with ...   -
          4309    new k.schleicher... Insight 4.3.3   2012 04 27  -   Trying to access intensity mea...   java.lang.Exception: java...
          4308    new daigle@embl.... Insight 4.3.3   2012 04 26  -   Edditing the "comments" field....   java.lang.Exception: Abno...
          4307    new columbus.hel... Insight 4.1.1   2012 04 25  -   -   java.lang.Exception: org....
          4306    new j.maure@dund... Insight 4.3.3   2012 04 21  -   Hello, Well, what I was doing...    java.lang.Exception: Abno...
          4303    new unknown Importer    2012 04 18  -   -   -
          4301    new columbus.hel... Insight 4.1.1   2012 04 16  -   -   java.lang.Exception: org....
      

Agenda - 2:30pm Start

  1. Accepting minutes from last meeting

  2. Sprint Tickets/bugs

    • Total bugs: 133 (12 blocker, 16 critical, 40 major, 65 minor)
    • Permission
      • group's owner rights in private/read-only group. Turn off things in client.
  3. Minigroup Updates (points for Sprint page)

    • HIC
    • Model
    • Web
    • Insight
    • FS
    • Usability
    • Bio-Formats
    • Chgrp
    • Docs
    • Big images / learning
    • Testing
  4. Satellite Update

  5. Glencoe Update

  6. Hiring Update (Closed for applicants as of 30 April) Candidates details are in: OME Docs / Hiring /

  7. Any other business (<5 mins)

Notes

Attending

* Josh (notes), Elwood (notes), Chris, Jason, Andrew, Blazej, Colin, Dom, Emma, Graeme, Jean-Marie, Melissa, Gus, Roger, Sebastien, Will, Stick

Housekeeping Pre-Meeting - 2pm Start

  1. Matters Arising (<10 mins)

    • Liza: Splash screen with OME and OMERO on it somehow DONE
    • Roger: Send documentation about Activision annotations DONE
  2. Email and Forum Review - checked at 10:09(5 mins)

    • Email -

      • Harri Jäälinoja - [ome-users] pgpool-II with OMERO? JOSH
      • Joe Ping-Lin Hsiao - Re: [ome-users] Compile BF-ITK-pipe on Windows CURTIS
      • Dr. Juergen helmers - Re: [ome-users] importing HCS data as a screen waiting on response
      • Forwarded messages: [ome-users] Fwd: Feedback on the use of OME in MATLAB/MRC/CCP4 format MELISSA
    • Forums -

    • QA -
      link

          ID  Status  User/email  Type    Created Selected file   Comment Error
          4310    new m.porter@dun... Insight 4.3.3   2012 04 30  -   I just created a project with ...   -
          4309    new k.schleicher... Insight 4.3.3   2012 04 27  -   Trying to access intensity mea...   java.lang.Exception: java...
          4308    new daigle@embl.... Insight 4.3.3   2012 04 26  -   Editing the "comments" field....    java.lang.Exception: Abno...
          4307    new columbus.hel... Insight 4.1.1   2012 04 25  -   -   java.lang.Exception: org....
          4306    new j.maure@dund... Insight 4.3.3   2012 04 21  -   Hello, Well, what I was doing...    java.lang.Exception: Abno...
          4303    new unknown Importer    2012 04 18  -   -   -
          4301    new columbus.hel... Insight 4.1.1   2012 04 16  -   -   java.lang.Exception: org....
      
    • Done: 14:13Z

Agenda - 2:30pm Start

  1. Accepting minutes from last meeting

    • Emma: Welcomes Blazej to the group.
  2. Sprint Tickets/bugs

    • Total bugs: 133 (12 blocker, 16 critical, 40 major, 65 minor)
    • Permission
      • group's owner rights in private/read-only group. Turn off things in client.
      • Jean-Marie: what is the owner allowed to do from a usability, group owner can change image link (disruptive) but can do the add value stuff ( add annotation) limitation of the system. Will diverge in server/client to avoid confusion, can modify tag but can’t tag image. Are people okay?
      • Chris: not sure it’s a good thing
      • Jean-Marie: delete at some phase of lifetime
      • Gus: seems strange the way you can alter people’s data in certain circumstances but not in other ways, unsure of best way to approach it.
      • Chris: have equal possibility that group owner will be allowed even though server allows it
      • Jean-Marie: not having it people are not aware of it.
      • Josh: 1. group admin adds data it belongs to the (only issue in private group) only data owner or group owner / sysadmin. What we can do client/server, when a group owner wants to do it, we do it at a user level, we don’t store authorship info for who created the data. 2. we have to add an annotation on annotation.
      • Josh: I create data, leave then you have ownership but authorship is maintained
      • Chris: disconnect between ownership and authorship
      • Will: Simple problem, in private group owner of the the group can change
      • Jean-marie: a lot of use cases in monash for marking exam using rating.
      • Chris: only private groups across the board (client/server) group owner can do anything to private data
      • Jean-Marie: server was full group owner needs to delete data, can not edit, can not delete
      • Jason: Could we spend some time gathering them, and schedule all for for something like 4.4.2?
      • Jean-marie: client do not allow owner to edit, we accept the disconnection for now and later resync and turn on
      • Josh: other option is to give the group-owners the ability to login as the data-owner so that they are clear that ownership==authorship
      • Andrew: sell it as an admin feature that owner can remove data but not change it (space saving)
      • Gus: don’t deal with admins that often, but the whole metaphor seems complicated/creaky and will need to be tweaked, whole permissions model needs addressing?
      • Will: agreed we can’t allow annotation (technically), do we allow deletion / edit?
      • Chris: if you’re a sysadmin it’s the same
      • Josh/Options:
      • no annotate (current)
      • no annotate / no edit
      • annotations belong to data-owner
        • simply
        • annotations to mark authorship
        • something else...
      • group-owner logs in as user
  3. Minigroup Updates (points for Sprint page) - 14:57z

    • HIC
    • Model
      • Jean-marie: code-gen and code base changes
      • Andrew: find any issues
      • Will: plan? make I Changes? when?
      • Chris: hopefully by monday
      • Jean-marie: only today got code to compile, java tests pass today hopefully, sit with you on the python stuff, 1 by 1 to fix it manually
      • Will: all model and db changes in 1 branches. 1st thing get clean db then later upgrade
      • Chris: figure out 8610 merge in develop so gateway classes are in line and avoid merge conflicts
      • Will: schema branch forked form long ago so can’t do code in same place
      • Chris: has to go in to develop, merge develop back in to... to avoid merge conflict resolution by everyone
    • Web
      • Will: all fixing bugs, small issues on big merge branhc, all web branches are 1 now, getting there
      • Dom: very minor bugs
      • Will: start more thorough testing ready? must be more serious ones.
      • Chris: change group in the UI? slect image and change it’s group, right-click change group
      • Will: in branch/develop not a proj/dataset
      • Josh: chmod new system?
      • Will: ola’s ticket, last I did was writing a test to use the API but couldn’t get it to test, guess Ola hasn’t changed admin use of API
      • Dom: last day is Tuesday; have Jason et al. beat it up to find the big issues.
      • Dom: Working on IE stuff, screen only showing 1000s of colours, need millions!
    • Insight - 15:03z
      • Elwood: working on final functionality for opening on Windows
      • Jean-Marie: group, integration with chmod/callbacks but core back work, had to suspend, multigroup support in 4.4
      • Jean-Marie: need splash screen for redesign. will contact Liza
      • Jean-Marie: Gus reviewing multigroup what do we allow based on permission, setting up a framework for testing
    • FS
      • Colin: pushed stories/tasks to 4.4.1
        • PR157 API changes for FS
        • CLS: meeting last week.
    • Usability / Testing
      • Gus: Web testing, before the formal stuff next week.
        • Training ticking along
        • Contact which section
      • Emma: start on Tuesday next week for formal testing
      • Chris: base assets organised before you leave
    • Bio-Formats
      • Melissa: model stuff this week down to 8 tickets that need ot be fixed, 2 bugs
      • Roger: finishing ROI for zeiss
      • Josh: submods, 137 PR for bioformats submodule support, whole team has to be able to grok submodules, 1hr / 2 while I’m here
      • stick: http://joncairns.com/2011/10/how-to-use-git-submodules/
    • Chgrp:
      • Covered
    • Docs
      • Covered
    • Big images / learning
      • Covered
  4. Satellite Update

    • Oxford has hired someone, coming by on Friday
    • Sebastien:
      • Starting to break work from HMS into stories each with about 5 tasks
      • As google doc; would like to have it reviewed once all the testing is done.
    • Jean-Marie: Ian provided matlab code for doing FLIM fitting
      • pass OMERO an image id and get data back from OMERO, etc. (saved as annotation,...)
      • C++ code is available, perhaps for running on the server.
    • Jason:
      • CRS4 wants to have some time to talk in more detail about code submissions etc.
      • They have done n enormous amount of work, and have OMERO instance running biobank data, with Galaxy front-end
      • Emma: Edinburgh also wants to discuss that.
      • Emma: PI conf. call scheduled, perhaps can be addressed
    • Josh:
      • CMU: Falcon code posted - https://github.com/icaoberg/Ricerca
  5. Glencoe Update

  6. Hiring Update (Closed for applicants as of 30 April) Candidates details are in: OME Docs / Hiring /

    • Sys Admin Candidates
    • Technical Writer Candidates
    • Emma: please look over them by the end of the week
  7. Any other business (<5 mins) - 15:25z

    • Will: release for before Paris?
      • J-M/Emma: Yes, it would be nice. That’s the goal.
      • Chris: depends. If we get too close to Paris, then we need to pull the brakes to get Paris ready
      • Emma: re-assess soon
      • Will: away week before Paris. Emma: and some away after Paris.
    • Josh: ROI in barcelona, not much came out about it, will take time before anything concrete
      • Discussing today for Roger
      • Another review tomorrow for Jean-Marie
    • Chris: away starting Saturday, back next Thursday
    • Jean-Marie: testing allocation of server resources, suspend auto deploy of merge colours.
  8. Done: 15:30

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