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2012-04-10 Tuesday Meeting

Attending: Josh (notes), Colin, dom, Emma, Jean-Marie, Liza, Melissa, Ola, Gus, Elwood (notes), Sebastien, Stick (14:10Z), Carlos (14:30Z), Curtis (15:00Z)

Remember: Agenda must be complete (with estimated times) on the day before the meeting. Any additions after that must go at the bottom (AOCB)

Housekeeping Pre-Meeting - 2pm Start

  1. Matters Arising (<10 mins)

    • Jean-Marie: Talk to melissa about a QA issues (4264, 4266)
    • Chris: Talk to stick about web testing infrastructure.
    • Liza/Josh: update the ohloh logos: https://www.ohloh.net/p/bio-formats/contributors, https://www.ohloh.net/p/omero/contributors DONE
  2. Email and Forum Review - checked at (5 mins)

    • Email - Couldn't see any...

    • Forums -

    • QA -
      link

      -- -- Add list indented 12 spaces
      ID  Status  User/email  Type    Created Selected file   Comment Error
      4273    new     ghoffman@bio...     Importer    2012 04 07  -   Any idea how to handle an impo...   -
      4272    new     ghoffman@bio...     Importer 4.2.2-r871     2012 04 06  ...CSU_13E_01A_R3D_D3D_CAC_CPY.dv   I have no idea why these faile...   java.lang.RuntimeExceptio...
      4267    new     r.li@dundee....     Insight 4.3.3   2012 04 03  -   -   java.lang.Exception: org....
      

Agenda - 2:30pm Start

  1. Accepting minutes from last meeting

  2. Sprint Bug Report (5 mins)

    • New bugs: 28 (11 blocker, 4 critical, 5 major, 8 minor)
    • Total bugs: 111 (12 blocker, 14 critical, 29 major, 56 minor)
  3. Sprint Tickets/bugs

  4. Minigroup Updates (points for Sprint page)

    • HIC
    • Model
    • Web
      • chmod and needed exceptions (PermissionDenied, etc) (Josh)
    • Insight
    • FS
    • Usability
    • Bio-Formats
    • Chgrp
    • Docs
    • Big images / learning
  5. Splash Screen text: OME / OMERO.

  6. Satellite Update

  7. Glencoe Update

  8. Any other business (<5 mins)

Notes

Attending

* Josh (notes), Colin, dom, Emma, Jean-Marie, Liza, Melissa, Ola, Gus, Elwood (notes), Sebastien, Stick (14:10Z), Carlos (14:30Z), Curtis (15:00Z)

Housekeeping Pre-Meeting - 2pm Start

  1. Matters Arising (<10 mins)

    • Jean-Marie: Talk to melissa about a QA issues (4264, 4266) DONE (Melissa)
    • Chris: Talk to stick about web testing infrastructure. DONE
      • Will: Chris setup gretzky-ui
      • Ola: gretzky-ui is not public (add to DNS?)
    • Liza/Josh: update the ohloh logos: https://www.ohloh.net/p/bio-formats/contributors, https://www.ohloh.net/p/omero/contributors DONE
  2. Email and Forum Review - checked at (5 mins)

    • Email - Couldnt see any...

    • Forums -

    • QA -
      link

      -- -- Add list indented 12 spaces
      ID  Status  User/email  Type    Created Selected file   Comment Error
      4273    new     ghoffman@bio...     Importer    2012 04 07  -   Any idea how to handle an impo...   -
      4272    new     ghoffman@bio...     Importer 4.2.2-r871     2012 04 06  ...CSU_13E_01A_R3D_D3D_CAC_CPY.dv   I have no idea why these faile...   java.lang.RuntimeExceptio...
      4267    new     r.li@dundee....     Insight 4.3.3   2012 04 03  -   -   java.lang.Exception: org....
      
  3. Done at 14:15Z

Agenda - 2:30pm Start

  1. Accepting minutes from last meeting

    • Josh: worried that FS wont be possible to be a point release
      • Jean-Marie: pass it to sites as a separate branch
      • Josh: just make API changes but dont enable it. Version hell if it is used on other sites.
      • Colin: API file changes?
      • Josh: Slice (Ice interface definition) file changes
      • Colin: something in addition to changes.
      • Josh: Get changes to Slice definitions that you have then we will be safe, nothing more than 909, if they dont go on then there wont be a prod server with this code
      • Colin: minor modifications, some things removed,
      • Josh: any changes, your code against a server, binary protocol change. Any API changes should be 4.4.0, will become complicated otherwise.
      • Colin: No Slice changes other than in a major release.
      • Josh: be careful, but the ones in 909 might lead to fatal exceptions, needs testing against a different version.
      • Josh: will be an experimental branch, monash was dangerous working on experimental branch but they understood it
  2. Sprint Bug Report (5 mins) - Started 14:38Z * New bugs: 28 (11 blocker, 4 critical, 5 major, 8 minor) * Total bugs: 111!! (12 blocker, 14 critical, 29 major, 56 minor) * Jean-Marie: due to testing, but not going to focus on bugs yet. Waiting on some branches to be merged in. * Jean-Marie: Doms code frozen? * Dom: a day or 2 more needed; shouldnt take too much longer. Trying to power through. * Jean-Marie: extra time for Logical Channel * Jean-Marie: Gus, anything needed for testing * Gus: Okay for the moment * Emma: Testing meeting thursday @ 2 * Jean-Marie: Check when Scott is back tomorrow * Emma: Sounds good.

  3. Minigroup Updates (points for Sprint page) - Started 14:42Z

    • Model * Jean-Marie: need extra sprint for channel / logical channel to go ahead.
    • Josh: A particular day for the model to be set in stone. Freeze the model / db. * 2 weeks time we have it wrapped up so everything else can start
    • Jean-Marie: alignment changes made
      • Josh: need the build to run to completion
    • cant let this slide
      • Jean-Marie: Andrew back soon. Blocker is the database
      • Josh: I will not be the only one doing database changes.
      • Jean-Marie: start on 24th April. Some code updated and tests written.
      • Josh, Will: Agreed, all hands on database!
      • Melissa: Should be okay and then code freeze pushed back...
      • Jean-Marie: yes as previously agreed.
      • Melissa: pushing release date as well
      • Jean-Marie: unclear, but probably.
      • Melissa: need to be mindful of dates. We had target the 1st of June, but have other things 16th of June.
    • Web - 14:55Z
    • chmod and needed exceptions (PermissionDenied, etc) (Josh)
    • Josh: working on a pull request (gh-139) to fix 8472 * merged in Wills branch to test 8471
      • Will: js update branches and odd bug fix branch updated, small bit of work on connection infrastructure need to test Chris latest anon. user stuff.
      • Ola: concentrating on pushing Doms UI changes to web instance. Need strategy of when to update the UI changes, daily/nightly strategy of updating and notfification of visible changes ready for testing, discuss with Scott and Gus on how we want to do this
      • Josh: QA trunk build building nightly?
      • Ola: not about building, everyday one person updates the server
      • Jean-Marie: Thursday @ 2pm platform for testing discussion.
      • Ola: Separate Virtual host for web, different web client same backend Omero server.
    • Insight - 14:59Z nothing
    • FS - 14:59Z nothing
    • Usability - 14:59Z
    • Gus: working on getting ready for training materials to revamp them
    • Jean-Marie: feedback forms from students. How long do they have?
    • Gus: have results back, need to put report together for meeting (number of other teachers who may be interested)
    • Ola: CLS
      • Were testing colin changes to FS branch; dont have every file imported (was failing)
      • promised that we would show the server working in April
      • 2 remaining tasks:
        • re-organize the data under 2 levels of hierarchies (currently 4 or 5) * 1 day worth of work, dir creation and moving
        • import: dont know how long it takes, because may have to be run by hand for every dataset
          • might not be possible to import the data in one shot
      • do it this week or wait a week?
      • Colin: have you tested the latest? Ola: No, was buliding
      • Colin: might be a problem with a file handle or memory leak. Might be related to closing of PixelStore
      • Ola: how to organize it to plan her(Olas) work.
      • Ola: would also be good to prepare some test tags for that server. Anyone helping? Scott was thinking of helping
    • Bio-Formats - 15:04Z
    • Melissa: nothing to add.
    • Chgrp/public-data - 15:04Z
    • dicsussed earlier
    • Josh: largely in bug testing, annotations not being moved then well have to label it as a known bug.
    • Josh: permissions front, minimal support for world readable groups, separation of canAnnotate and canEdit as well as code-gen on model
      • Hopefully wont impact API so wont have to take them in to account.
    • Docs
    • Big images / learning
      • Done: 15:07Z
  4. Splash Screen text: OME / OMERO. - 15:07Z

    • Jean-Marie: As a group we need to decide OME or OMERO.
    • Will: make sense to call it OMERO.
    • Will: OME organisation, OMERO application. Word doesnt say “Microsoft” bigger.
    • Ola: OME and OMERO are quite close
    • Josh: Cant make decision today, Liza and Dom come up with splash screen within the style guide.
    • Dom: can provide screenshots
    • Elwood: big impact because there are a lot of references (esp. if killing “OMERO”)
    • Dom: just visually, Lizas logo attempts to solve ome / omero problem
    • Liza: OME and OMERO logo? or wait for the decision?
      • Doms works but depends on name change happening.
    • Ola: why have logo and not just name? Dom: want to push the logo as much as possible.
      • Dom: once brand name becomes synonymous with logo just drop name, in the long distant future!
    • Jean-Marie: would be good to know what you want to do on the web front, so we can better handle the java popup (more than just the logo)
    • Jean-Marie: specify default group that the user want to enter in to.
      • Dom: from a workflow perspective, need to investigate
  5. Satellite Update - 15:19Z

    • Matlab/Sebastien: nothing to report. postpone matlab activity until after 4.4
      • Currently working on generic matlab client connections
      • Working on unit test framework for matlab, one being proposed will investigate further.
      • Jean-Marie: potential tester? Seb: Sure.
    • ImageJ/Curtis: - 15:21Z
      • first beta release. see blog post
      • high-point: added ability to update imagej using automatic updater of fiji. pointed imagej2 at fiji update sites and was able to install fiji into imagej2!
    • Jean-Marie: ImageJ Devel mailing list.
  6. Glencoe Update - 15:22Z

    • Josh: more demos and testing with JCB
  7. Any other business (<5 mins)

    • Gus: backing up non code material?
      • Will: CLS has a service.
    • Jean-Marie: Use squig?
    • Ola: Stick can you check space available on squig (Josh: 12TB)

Done 15:28Z

Actions

  • Emma: Confirm meeting dates for pfelts feedback
  • Dom: Work on mock up of logo and splash screen (ome-nitpick)
  • Dom/Jean-Marie: discuss default group on login
  • All: Decide on Logo/ Branding name
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