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2012-02-21 Tuesday Meeting

Attending: Josh (notes), Chris, Jason, Andrew, Carlos, Colin, Emma, Jean-Marie, Liza, Ola, Scott, Elwood (notes), Sebastien, Simon, Stick, Will, Melissa (14:08), Mark (14:29), Curtis (14:53), Jason (15:13 UK)

Remember: Agenda must be complete (with estimated times) on the day before the meeting. Any additions after that must go at the bottom (AOCB)

Housekeeping Pre-Meeting - 2pm Start

  1. Matters Arising (<10 mins)

    • Elwood: update the sprint page with HIC stuff DONE
    • Chris: update the milestone page.DONE
    • Colin: add new videos to list (imagej, multi-group, etc) Ticket created: DONE
    • Jason: provide list of targets to Scott DONE: Bristol, MRC-HGU, Beatson, Local
    • All: review positions
    • Josh: PDF to sphinx.
  2. Email and Forum Review - checked at (5 mins)

    • Email -

    • Forums -

    • QA -
      link

      ID  Status  User/email  Type    Created Selected file   Comment Error
      4210    new     unknown     Web 4.3.3-00d1  2012 02 10  -   -   Traceback (most recent ca...
      

Agenda - 2:30pm Start

  1. Accepting minutes from last meeting

  2. Meeting Debriefing (5 mins)

  3. Github (5 mins)

    • Public github repo of ome.xml?
    • Private repos
    • Satellite code
  4. Sprint Bug Report (5 mins)

    • Closed bugs: 13 (2 blocker, 3 critical, 4 major, 4 minor)
    • New bugs: 2 (1 major, 1 minor)
    • Total bugs: 81 (4 blocker, 9 critical, 21 major, 47 minor)
  5. Next Sprint:

    • Key action: db/model changes.
  6. First look at new UI design: Dom's presentation (45 mins)

  7. Any other business (<5 mins)

Notes

Attending

* Josh (notes), Chris, Jason, Andrew, Carlos, Colin, Emma, Jean-Marie, Liza, Ola, Scott, Elwood (notes), Sebastien, Simon, Stick, Will, Melissa (14:08), Mark (14:29), Curtis (14:53), Jason (15:13 UK)

Housekeeping Pre-Meeting notes - 2pm Start

  1. Matters Arising (<10 mins)

    • Elwood: update the sprint page with HIC stuff DONE
    • Chris: update the milestone page.DONE
    • Colin: add new videos to list (imagej, multi-group, etc) Ticket created: DONE
    • Jason: provide list of targets to Scott DONE: Bristol, MRC-HGU, Beatson, Local
    • All: review positions
    • Josh: PDF to sphinx. (PENDING)
  2. Email and Forum Review - checked at (5 mins)

    • Email -

    • Forums -

    • QA -
      link

      ID  Status  User/email  Type    Created Selected file   Comment Error
      4210    new     unknown     Web 4.3.3-00d1  2012 02 10  -   -   Traceback (most recent ca...
      
  3. Done, 14:09 UK

Agenda notes - 2:30pm Start

  1. Accepting minutes from last meeting

    • Done.
  2. Meeting Debriefing (5 mins) - 14:31 UK

    • Chris: Emma had some comments, will cover in AOCB
    • Everyone happy with regards food and restaurants.
      • Simon: meeting rooms were good
      • Andrew: groups of tables was good
      • Simon: Hackathon type day will require more repository exposure for collaboration
      • Will: Try and get them prepared before coming
      • Will: Ingvar pull request was done during the meeting.
  3. Github (5 mins) - 14:35 UK

    • Public github repo of ome.xml? (Will)
    • running tests against prop. file formats.
    • examples of complete xml from genuine files
    • Jean-Marie: public?
    • Melissa: agrees that ome.xml for testing should be private across the board, 1 for each data set, so we can contact anyone who has sent us data. make this one private and pick and choose good examples and anon them and thenmake them public.
    • Andrew: email to list of sample people for permission to make data public. ONly on public we will release
  4. Melissa: 100s people, 6 years, memory loss

    • Will: 5 files manual checks to every attribute, not100s of files
    • Jean-Marie: for now 5 files but could be more
    • Melissa: in the end we want across all the formats, dont see it scaling
    • Chris: some manual some not
    • Chris: incredibly useful to know what has changed in formats and metadata, we dont have that data now
    • Will: idea is for me to exchange files with Melissa
    • Jean-Marie: issue with private setup?
    • Will: a private repo with ton of data, tricky to move
    • Chris: we cant make it public due to wanting to have ome.xml for all formats
    • Chris: specification has examples already.
    • Will: ask martin if we can use his data in the public
    • Melissa: Dont have a problem with will contacting, does not matter
    • Private repos
    • Chris: started, smallest 10 private repos
    • Jean-Marie: satellite can request private repositories? Right.
    • Ola: qa as an example? *Chris: yes
    • Chris: private repos with stick for a few weeks / month
    • Jean-Marie: send email to satellites to let them know they can request. ACTION EMMA
    • Chris + Ola: move qa under github private repo
    • Josh: git svn clone already, some early webstuff needs looking at
    • Satellite code
  5. Sprint Bug Report (5 mins)

    • Closed bugs: 13 (2 blocker, 3 critical, 4 major, 4 minor)
    • New bugs: 2 (1 major, 1 minor)
    • Total bugs: 81 (4 blocker, 9 critical, 21 major, 47 minor)
    • Chris: good progress so far
    • JM: 85-90 after closing QA
    • Chris: Only issue is security problem in web with debug connectors, Carlos verify it is ther eon older installs
      • Carlos:Yes from way back it is doing that.
      • Chris: 4.3 is safe
      • Carlos: 4.1 is suffering from it
  6. Next Sprint:

  7. JM: created a PR with insight changes (merge blue after meeting) * Chris: change group branch required? * JM: Check images and usage no funcionality loss and crashes * chgrp code missing, finalising * Ola: send email please.

  8. Key action: db/model changes. * JM: discussed changes w.r.t ROIs, IQuery and string usage noted. Start work in next sprint next week, Andrew branch and make changes * Andrew: model and mapping changes first, let Josh make DB cahnges? * Josh: 2 things:

  9. discuss chris generation of mapping files form xsd foo, we would know workarounds

  10. plan is to do migration scripts, with number of changes will need more help ~24 changes in database, lots of code changes required, need others to help * JM: need help with test writing, where we hae used string and some are missing * Chris: templates in place to generate mapping files, to see how easily xsd foo can generate them, ideally * Andrew: at the moment, might not be able to generate all mappings, might be able to generate most of it * JM: start with ROI? as most difficult * Andrew: upgrading measurement tool * JM: bit of a mess * Andrew: remove stuff first, then discuss * JM: 1 week time will be starting * Andrew: still have a few decisions to make.

  11. First look at new UI design: Doms presentation (45 mins) - Started 15:00 UK

    • Presentation until 15:20 UK
    • Jean-Marie: have tried to show all data in a group without owner, but that had issues
    • Jean-Marie/Chris: adding user below group
      • At least in some cases
      • turn “group by user” on and off
      • group as way to aggregate users v. way to work together.
    • Chris: no concept of “personal” - just a permissions setting
      • Need to figure out the best way to rationalize personal with groups (in the UI)
      • Unlikely to be in 6 private groups, but possible.
    • Jean-Marie: cant all go in 4.4
    • Andrew: in Java? Lot of work.
    • Andrew: small font size in prototype. will it work with larger fonts?
    • Will: what happened to right tabs?
    • Ola: why the group tab at the top?
    • JM: Projects & Screens together?
    • Will: Insight different layout because of screens, files etc.
    • Jean-Marie: showing the scientist? Yes, a few after coming up with a prototype.
    • Dom: Prototype and user testing
      • Chris: Have to decide who the best are.
    • Discuss later in the week the group issues.
    • Done (15:48)
  12. Any other business (<5 mins)

    • Meeting Debrief (comments from Emma)
      • Emma: nothing specific. Any comments are welcome.
    • Review positions
    • Stories/Requirements:
      • Milestone related we wont make the deadline
      • Might need to put the stories rather than the requirements on the milestone page.
    • Jason: reminder about having a meeting in Barcelona, will need concrete interoperability.
      • KNIME, ImageLib2, ImageJ (FIJI)
  13. Done (15:54)

Actions

* Josh: pdf to sphinx
* Andrew: check mailing lists
* Emma: contact satellites about getting private code onto github
* Will: contact Martin about publishing ome-xml files
* JM: email about merge blue
* Josh+Ola: gitsvn
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