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2011-09-13 Tuesday Meeting

Attending: Carlos, Josh, Melissa, Chris, Andrew, Colin, Ola, Scott, Will, Jean-Marie, Elwood, Simon, Curtis (14:37), Jason (14:40)

Agenda

Remember: Agenda must be complete (with estimated times) on the day before the meeting. Any additions after that must go at the bottom (AOCB)

  1. Accepting minutes from last meeting

  2. Matters Arising (<10 mins)

    • Scott: scripts under known limitations (can be disabled) /FAQ?
    • All: export testing monday - done
    • Andrew: FAQ on root not in LDAP. - done link (also can we make the FAQ findable?)
    • Andrew: Check to see what movies are still popular/current/need updating - done
    • Chris: Reply to GiveCampUK forum message
    • Jason: CRITICAL Find receipt for (broken) coffee machine, productivity down 50%!
    • Curtis: Eclipse metadata in Bio-Formats Git repository (re: this thread; see instructions)

  3. Status of release 4.3.2 (40 mins)

    • The status of using the ImageJ plugin - exclusion of OME option in the drop
      down menu.

  4. Plan Movie updates (5 mins)

    • See Andrew's Movie email on Nitpick

  5. Any other business (<5 mins)

Attending

  • Carlos, Josh, Melissa, Chris, Andrew, Colin, Ola, Scott, Will, Jean-Marie, Elwood, Simon, Curtis (14:37), Jason (14:40)

Notes

  1. Accepting minutes from last meeting

    • done

  2. Matters Arising (<10 mins)

    • Scott: scripts under known limitations (can be disabled) /FAQ?
      • Need to check with Chris about technical jargon.
      • Chris: FAQ for export? Yes.
      • Chris: images currently on gretzky for testing (screenshot)
      • Insight is currently disabling export of OME-TIFF (bigimages) but not generation of JPEG.
      • Jean-Marie: all scripts related to images (projections, rois, etc.) need to be review.
      • Too late for 4.3.2.
      • Need to be aware that there's the possibility of crashing the server
    • All: export testing monday - done
      • Chris: all done and 3 main areas tested
        • Export image larger than 4GB leads to bigtiff
        • Prevent export of big images
        • web/insight handle exceptions appropriately.
          • buttons disabled in insight
    • Andrew: FAQ on root not in LDAP. - done link (also can we make the FAQ findable?)
      • Andrew thinks it is findable.
      • What else do we want to do?
      • 2 clicks from main website.
      • Chris: but we've had at least 3 people ask "is there a faq?"
      • Will: want documentation to be a top-level item.
    • Andrew: Check to see what movies are still popular/current/need updating - done
    • Chris: Reply to GiveCampUK forum message - done
    • Jason: CRITICAL Find receipt for (broken) coffee machine, productivity down 50%!
      • Digging
      • Either find it or we buy a new one.
      • Dosmestic is perhaps not enough.
    • Curtis: Eclipse metadata in Bio-Formats Git repository (re: this thread; see instructions)
      • Curtis: Melissa, Chris, et al. care about changing eclipse?
      • Melissa: don't use eclipse. Doesn't matter.
      • Chris: only eclipse user left.
      • As long as the docs are in place, should be fine.
      • Downside: have to maintain the POMs and install m2e

  3. Status of release 4.3.2 (40 mins)

    • Web
      • Ola: Only Will's changes to the scripts are left
      • Caching is only possibly fixable (50/50)
        • Web caching is based on user id.
        • So once thumbnail is cached, everyone can see it.
      • Otherwise, feel pretty good to release.
    • LDAP
      • Merged this morning
      • Hopefully the two scenarios will help sysadmin until we can do something more complete.
    • Bio-Formats
      • Melissa: One ticket open (6728)
      • Chris: came up while testing big-tiff changes
      • Starting with 4.3.2, all pyramid files are big-tiffs. No way to make that any easier.
      • Easy way to test all pixel types was to enable FS-lite for DeltaVision.
      • 8bit, floating point, etc. tested from under test_images_good.
      • Lif metadata ticket (Will)
        • Currently linking filters to channels
        • Anyway to turn off the linking
        • Better to have no metadata than wrong metadata
        • Melissa: for 4.3.2 can turn off filters.
        • Chris: limited impact?
        • Melissa: yeah, only impacts that format (commented lines)
    • Insight
      • Issue with xml-based ROIS.
        • Reporter not present.
        • Have tried to fix it
        • Tried to minimize issue.
    • No real blocker
      • QA & Hudson tickets are being worked on but can be pushed
    • The status of using the ImageJ plugin - exclusion of OME option in the drop down menu.
      • Scott: from test scenarios on Friday, Colin rased issue about password in ImageJ
      • Jean-Marie: 2 plugins to login to OMERO from ImageJ
      • One from OMERO and one from Bio-Formats.
      • One uses the other under the hood.
      • Should we announce ome-tools is another tool to login?
      • Or just say we have improved connection to load plane by plane?
      • Jason: thoughts, Curtis? Useful from CLI / batch? And relationship to alpha releases?
        • Curtis: alpha releases: we'll get that hammered out at the hackathon
        • Curtis: is "download from OMERO" maintained?
          • Melissa just fixed it.
          • Chris: do we disable the other plugin?
          • Jean-Marie: question is about the announcement
          • Chris: also about the plugin menu
          • Melissa: few questions on the mailing list about ome-tools not working.
            • That's why I tried to fix it up.
            • Not a friendly plugin, so ok to comment it out
            • But need to announce that
          • Curtis: intended to expose low level bf/omero functionality
            • Do we have that in another form?
            • Impression of rich-client plugin is very GUI centric
            • Can't scripted.
            • would be nice to have both together.
            • Jean-Marie: everything calls LOCI import plugin passing string.
            • Curtis: that's great, sounds superior.
            • Curtis: can you do a macro?
            • Melissa: instead of eliminiating, could we just move the menu entry?
            • Curtis: unfortuante feature is it has to be somewhere in the menu.
            • Curtis: ok either way.
          • Chris: we have a different release schedule for all these things.
            • Perhaps just disable and then we can re-release before 4.4
    • Release process (Jason)
      • Who's championing the list? (ReleaseProcess)
      • Scott
      • Chris to produce release packages for 10AM (UK) tomorrow
      • Jean-Marie: will need to review the LIF changes.

  4. Plan Movie updates (5 mins)

    • See Andrew's Movie email on Nitpick
    • Prioritize by wrongness or popularity
    • Will: for one popular one, there's another version

  5. Any other business (<5 mins)

    • Who controls? (Perhaps update after Tue/Thu meetings?)
    • External projects (Jason)
      • HIC / satellites are all coming online
      • Increases burden. (Includes Carlos' work on JCB, etc.)
    • New staff (Jason)
      • Brian Loranger has resigned as of Sept. 30
        • Currently taking his remaining holidays.
    • New space (Jason)
    • Scott: Number of people going to London.
      • Post meeting.
    • Curtis / website:
      • Can't get links to work?
      • Andrew to send Curtis instructions.
      • They are weird; can't use relative only absolute.

Actions

  • Someone figure out how to take notes by contacting Josh
  • Andrew: schedule discussions of storing big images in OME-TIFF (compressiong / tiling)
  • Curtis: remove eclipse files from git.
  • Will: validate new bio-formats build for filter issue
  • Andrew / Will / et al: meeting Wed. for coming up with the movie schedule
  • Discuss Tweets after release
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