2011-08-18 Thursday Meeting
Attending: Brian, Andrew, Littlewood, Ola, Jean-Marie, Scott, Josh, Jason, Carlos, Melissa, SImon
Agenda
Remember: Agenda must be complete (with estimated times) on the day before the meeting. Any additions after that must go at the bottom (AOCB)
Accepting minutes from last meeting
Matters Arising (<10 mins)
- Scott: Clairify what requirements are needed for dev training in London
- Jason: Send forum post about client memory allocation
Generating sprint # (45 mins)
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Outline
- What New Tasks were added to old sprint
- What Tasks are left in old sprint
- Make new sprint
- Estimates
- Close old sprint and move other tasks into new sprint
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Outstanding for release
- All scenarios in place by?
- Anything missing from ReleaseProcess?
- How are we handling docs for release (cF. FS change)?
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To discuss
- #6504 Commenting on well
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Outline
Email and Forum Review - checked at (5 mins)
Email - none
Forums -
QA -
link| All | Importer Comment | Importer Bug | Insight Comment | Insight Bug | Test Engine Bug | Web Bug | QA Bug | ID Status User/email Type Created Selected file Comment Error 3939 new unknown Importer 4.3.0-7734 2011 08 17 DO_1h30_17_R3D.dv - java.lang.RuntimeExceptio... 3938 new unknown Importer 4.3.0-7734 2011 08 17 Ctrl_45min_13_R3D.dv - java.lang.RuntimeExceptio... 3937 new unknown Importer 4.3.0-7734 2011 08 17 Ctrl_45min_12_R3D.dv - java.lang.RuntimeExceptio... 3936 new unknown Importer 4.3.0-7734 2011 08 17 DO_1h30_10_R3D.dv - java.lang.RuntimeExceptio... 3935 new unknown Importer 4.3.0-7734 2011 08 17 DO_1h30_14_R3D_cmle.r3d - java.lang.RuntimeExceptio... 3934 new caron.grif@g... Insight 4.2.2 2011 08 17 - trying to open a project folde... java.lang.Exception: org.... 3933 new G.Akman@suss... Insight 4.3.0 2011 08 15 - - java.lang.Exception: Abno... 3931 new S.C.Moser@du... Insight 4.3.1 2011 08 12 - saving ROI java.lang.Exception: org.... 3930 new bwestra@uore... Insight 4.3.0 2011 08 11 cb_2_L24R15 002.png I'm doing a trial; can you tel... java.lang.NullPointerExce... 3929 new bwestra@uore... Insight 4.3.0 2011 08 11 cb_2_L24R15 001.png I'm doing a trial; can you tel... java.lang.NullPointerExce... 3928 new bwestra@uore... Insight 4.3.0 2011 08 11 cb_3_L24R15 003.png I'm doing a trial; can you tel... java.lang.NullPointerExce... 3927 new bwestra@uore... Insight 4.3.0 2011 08 11 cb_3_L24R15 002.png I'm doing a trial; can you tel... java.lang.NullPointerExce... 3926 new bwestra@uore... Insight 4.3.0 2011 08 11 cb_3_L24R15 001.png I'm doing a trial; can you tel... java.lang.NullPointerExce... 3925 new e.griffis@du... Insight 4.3.1 2011 08 11 - - java.lang.Exception: Abno... 3924 new rpalmisano@u... Importer 4.3.1-6d4b 2011 08 10 harris.tif - java.lang.NullPointerExce... 3923 new lem@stowers.... Insight 4.3.0 2011 08 09 - - java.lang.Exception: java... 3921 new S.C.Moser@du... Insight 4.3.1 2011 08 05 - hi guys, it can't import some ... - 3920 new S.C.Moser@du... Insight 4.3-DEV 2011 08 05 - Hi guys, there is a bug today ... - 3913 new unknown Insight 4.3.1 2011 08 02 - Loading a new set of ROIs to a... java.lang.Exception: Abno... 3912 new r.disanto@du... Insight 4.3.1 2011 08 02 - - java.lang.Exception: Abno...
Any other business (<5 mins)
in Attendance
- Brian, Andrew, Littlewood, Ola, Jean-Marie, Scott, Josh, Carlos, Jason, Melissa, Simon
Notes
Accepting minutes from last meeting
- DONE
Matters Arising (<10 mins) Starting at 14:02
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Scott: Clairify what requirements are needed for dev training in London IN PROGRESS
- Prepared a survey monkey questionaire, waiting for approval and will send to team then martin
- JMB: Did we do something similar last time? Scott: These questions are based on Jerome's
- Expect to send this out tomorrow, out to Martin as soon as possible
- Jason: Send forum post about client memory allocation - PENDING
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Scott: Clairify what requirements are needed for dev training in London IN PROGRESS
Generating sprint # (45 mins)
DISCUSSION:
- JMB has pushed final date to 15th of Sept
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JMB: If you have things left and you are going away, please update before you leave
- move out of milestone or complete before
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Scott's Testing Scenarios:
- A few of these need feedback to confirm priorities
- Which scenarios are for this release?
- JMB: Have you discussed with devs? Mostly.
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Need work on getting test data for each scenario
- JMB: Probably better in 4.4; don't want to rush it.
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Brian
- Nothing left
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Andrew
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Transformation stuff still needs some debugging
- JMB: Still would be good to see
- Mailing proposal should happen this week
- Remainder is documenatation stuff, should be closed very soon
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Transformation stuff still needs some debugging
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Littlewood
- Is looking at LDAP and getting up to speed with that, working on testing
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Will need some assistance on this
- Ola: Is waiting on LDAP duplication for this from downstairs
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Ola:
- Moved some of her tickets already to next sprint, remainder are being worked on
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Most of what remains should be done by next Tuesday
- Some bugs, also bird's eye view, and annotation
- Feel free to look at SPW plugin if you want to test
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JBurel (starting at 14:14)
- Fixing bugs (matlab), so far only on GRE mporter
- Helping to merge ome-xml.org. Mostly merged. One left to move.
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Writing tests on chgrp; lots of possible use cases (trickier than delete)
- Can't promise too much: ontologies, tags, etc.
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Josh
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CHGRP
- One ticket in progress; can be pushed.
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HIC
- Talked to Simon about HIC base, going to get things set up for Simon/Lwood to change files
- Plan for the next 2 weeks is to set up testing framework, and then show this to HIC
- Get LWood up to speed on DJango and web
- FS sleeping for this sprint
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Misc
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HIC & FS are in branches
- we may want to make disposable integration branches to test everything
- Sounds good
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HIC & FS are in branches
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CHGRP
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Carlos
- Not looking opensource stuff just now, please move these (busy working on other things)
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Ola: email sent to you for some clairification?
- Carlos: Yes will look into these before hand.
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JMB: Release on the 15th. your tickets won't be done then? can't be in testing group?
- Carlos: preferrably yes. Can probably spend a half hour here and there
- Jason: Ola, you're waiting on commentary on bugs?
- Jason: Carlos has release on Sep. 5th so v. busy till 26th (or longer)
- Ola: remember 6506
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Melissa
- Sent list via email (Scott has seen it)
- 2 open tickets in sprint. Both bugs, in progress (Leica excitation, svs bug from scott)
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Simon
- Only VM user story still here.
- No tickets in this sprint.
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11 tickets in story, all should be moved to next sprint and closed.
- Half are testing in various stages of completion
- One future development ticket that is open for tuesday meeting dabate
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Chris
- several tickets; Jean-Marie will contact him
Outstanding for release
- All scenarios in place by? - See "discussion" above - IN PROGRESS
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Anything missing from ReleaseProcess?
- Code freeze planned.
- Scenarios planned? Scott: with Melissa's information, we can plan this.
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RE Bio-formats: Melissa should be ready for her release 1 week before final release (Sept 8th in this case)
- Josh: If this is not doable, please let us know Melissa
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Ola Re: Web admin tests, Is this working or not on Hudson
- Josh: All selinium tests are not running, the rest of the tests run but not with windows
- Ola: Do you think we will be able to do this before final release? There are gateway changes
- Josh: Should definitely be part of this process
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How are we handling docs for release (cF. FS change)?
- Jason: rephrasing "What's the threshold for complete version?"
- Andrew: we did have the patch snapshots
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Jason: Hard to duplicate?
- Andrew: Not hard but make sure everyone is editing the right one!
- Scott:
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Misc
- JMB: From ReleaseProcess, Cellprofiler is there, should we be testing this?
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Jason: we're testing a version of CellProfiler that's not supported
- Suggest we take that off the list
- Let folks know now to use this! :)
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Josh: 1) Agree it needs evauluation 2) Not optimal to do this till Will gets back
- We should have a warning about Cellprofiler 1 being deprecated for now
- Jason: Let community know, let them also know we will look at CP2 soon as a priority
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Ola: last time we didn't have the box on the top
- Problem: didn't see this so we would know what to do.
- Andrew: sent an email, but can turn on the box.
- Snapshot -> edit it -> then switch.
- Banner when you're logged in.
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JMB: Andrew put up a proposal page for a new N-DIM solution, please look at it
- Feedback welcome
- Andrew: Upgradeable hack with up to 7 dimensions
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Josh: Have read it, seems redable, perhaps something structured we can later turn into arrays perhaps
- This keeps people from doing string parsing
- Andrew: Can discuss this later, but picked current method as a standard xml method for string arrays
- JMB: Lets have a meeting about this tomorrow?
- Josh: Can but we should wait to hear from chris for importer parts
- JMB: OK lets read it and prep meeting next week
To discuss (starting at 14:47)
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#6504 Commenting on well
- JMB: example of lack of communication
- Insight added comments at wellsample level, 1.5 yr ago.
- Web could see data since 4.1, was always at the image level.
- Lack of synchronization in the clients.
- But we won't have any DB uprade in 4.3.2
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Ola: problem to fix in next release definitely
- Since 4.1 no one has reported that can't see annotations in web
- a lot of work, perhaps ok to not fix.
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Jason: right that's a lot of work, but something we've done poorly should be fixed
- reduces the attractiveness of what we're trying to do.
- problem for ourselves is that our strict schedules breaks the process.
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Ola: Concern is that these are deep changes, requires more testing
- Also not a complex solution, will still be broken deep in at the gateway
- Jason: More people using web in more complexed way, need consistent web/insight workflows
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JMB: Ideally DB ugprade to fix this, insight+web adjusted after.
- Since no DB upgrade in 4.3.2, we may need a less ideal solution to this problem
- Jason: Are there other things like?
- JMB: May be, ROI was addressed last time
- Ola: Scripting + DOM could be a problem now after SWP changes
- Jason: general point, if there are more things lurking then we may need to fix them
- After that, if there are more changes, we address the deeper problems
- JMB: I seem to remember some screens without binary data but annotations, so annotations may need to be on wellsample
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How is this set up now? Required or by convention? Carlos: Not sure right.
- Andrew: May need a way to mark images as 'bogus' for a screen (as opposed to bogus in general)
- Conclusion: Ola and JMB will look at how long it will take to make changes for 4.3.2, then go from there
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#6504 Commenting on well
Email and Forum Review - checked at (5 mins)
Email -
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http://lists.openmicroscopy.org.uk/pipermail/ome-users/2011-August/002754.html
- Needs a reponse
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JMB: He posted a problem with previews earlier
- May need to get things running for long periods of time to test
- JMB: Will email him to ask for details
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http://lists.openmicroscopy.org.uk/pipermail/ome-users/2011-August/002749.html
- May already be fixed, Josh will check with user
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http://lists.openmicroscopy.org.uk/pipermail/ome-users/2011-August/002754.html
Forums
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Export Big TIFF support for files over 4GB (two posts)
- Andrew will email to help him
- big image ROIs
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Export Big TIFF support for files over 4GB (two posts)
QA -
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- Importers ones resolved, insight ones being looked into by JMB
Any other business (<5 mins)
Action Items
- Josh: add python tests running on hudson to ReleaseProcess
- Free time? Look at the new SPW work for Ola on Gretzky
- Ola: Please send Carlos a reminder by email for any of his outstanding tickets you sent to him
- Carlos: Look at ticket 6506
- Jean-Marie/Josh: document deprecating/non-testing CellProfiler1 & ticket examining CellProfiler2
- Andrew: take a snapshot of the documentation; document how to do it.
- Andrew: Send email about n-dim proposal with array support and arrange meeting for next week (including Chris)
- Jburel: Reply to email http://lists.openmicroscopy.org.uk/pipermail/ome-users/2011-August/002754.html re: disconnections
- Josh: Reply to email ttp://lists.openmicroscopy.org.uk/pipermail/ome-users/2011-August/002749.html to see if already fixed DONE
- Andrew: Email Big Image TIFF 4G user and see if you can help
- Jean-Marie: talk to Sandra
Action Points for Tuesday
- Plan Mini-group of new Schema license.