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2011-08-18 Thursday Meeting

Attending: Brian, Andrew, Littlewood, Ola, Jean-Marie, Scott, Josh, Jason, Carlos, Melissa, SImon

Agenda

Remember: Agenda must be complete (with estimated times) on the day before the meeting. Any additions after that must go at the bottom (AOCB)

  1. Accepting minutes from last meeting

  2. Matters Arising (<10 mins)

    • Scott: Clairify what requirements are needed for dev training in London
    • Jason: Send forum post about client memory allocation
  3. Generating sprint # (45 mins)

    • Outline
      • What New Tasks were added to old sprint
      • What Tasks are left in old sprint
      • Make new sprint
      • Estimates
      • Close old sprint and move other tasks into new sprint
    • Outstanding for release
      • All scenarios in place by?
      • Anything missing from ReleaseProcess?
      • How are we handling docs for release (cF. FS change)?
    • To discuss
      • #6504 Commenting on well
  4. Email and Forum Review - checked at (5 mins)

    • Email - none

    • Forums -

    • QA -
      link

      | All | Importer Comment | Importer Bug | Insight Comment | Insight Bug | Test Engine Bug | Web Bug | QA Bug |
      ID  Status  User/email  Type    Created Selected file   Comment Error
      3939    new unknown Importer 4.3.0-7734 2011 08 17  DO_1h30_17_R3D.dv   -   java.lang.RuntimeExceptio...
      3938    new unknown Importer 4.3.0-7734 2011 08 17  Ctrl_45min_13_R3D.dv    -   java.lang.RuntimeExceptio...
      3937    new unknown Importer 4.3.0-7734 2011 08 17  Ctrl_45min_12_R3D.dv    -   java.lang.RuntimeExceptio...
      3936    new unknown Importer 4.3.0-7734 2011 08 17  DO_1h30_10_R3D.dv   -   java.lang.RuntimeExceptio...
      3935    new unknown Importer 4.3.0-7734 2011 08 17  DO_1h30_14_R3D_cmle.r3d -   java.lang.RuntimeExceptio...
      3934    new caron.grif@g... Insight 4.2.2   2011 08 17  -   trying to open a project folde...   java.lang.Exception: org....
      3933    new G.Akman@suss... Insight 4.3.0   2011 08 15  -   -   java.lang.Exception: Abno...
      3931    new S.C.Moser@du... Insight 4.3.1   2011 08 12  -   saving ROI  java.lang.Exception: org....
      3930    new bwestra@uore... Insight 4.3.0   2011 08 11  cb_2_L24R15 002.png I'm doing a trial; can you tel...   java.lang.NullPointerExce...
      3929    new bwestra@uore... Insight 4.3.0   2011 08 11  cb_2_L24R15 001.png I'm doing a trial; can you tel...   java.lang.NullPointerExce...
      3928    new bwestra@uore... Insight 4.3.0   2011 08 11  cb_3_L24R15 003.png I'm doing a trial; can you tel...   java.lang.NullPointerExce...
      3927    new bwestra@uore... Insight 4.3.0   2011 08 11  cb_3_L24R15 002.png I'm doing a trial; can you tel...   java.lang.NullPointerExce...
      3926    new bwestra@uore... Insight 4.3.0   2011 08 11  cb_3_L24R15 001.png I'm doing a trial; can you tel...   java.lang.NullPointerExce...
      3925    new e.griffis@du... Insight 4.3.1   2011 08 11  -   -   java.lang.Exception: Abno...
      3924    new rpalmisano@u... Importer 4.3.1-6d4b 2011 08 10  harris.tif  -   java.lang.NullPointerExce...
      3923    new lem@stowers.... Insight 4.3.0   2011 08 09  -   -   java.lang.Exception: java...
      3921    new S.C.Moser@du... Insight 4.3.1   2011 08 05  -   hi guys, it can't import some ...   -
      3920    new S.C.Moser@du... Insight 4.3-DEV 2011 08 05  -   Hi guys, there is a bug today ...   -
      3913    new unknown Insight 4.3.1   2011 08 02  -   Loading a new set of ROIs to a...   java.lang.Exception: Abno...
      3912    new r.disanto@du... Insight 4.3.1   2011 08 02  -   -   java.lang.Exception: Abno...
      
  5. Any other business (<5 mins)

in Attendance

  • Brian, Andrew, Littlewood, Ola, Jean-Marie, Scott, Josh, Carlos, Jason, Melissa, Simon

Notes

  1. Accepting minutes from last meeting

    • DONE
  2. Matters Arising (<10 mins) Starting at 14:02

    • Scott: Clairify what requirements are needed for dev training in London IN PROGRESS
      • Prepared a survey monkey questionaire, waiting for approval and will send to team then martin
      • JMB: Did we do something similar last time? Scott: These questions are based on Jerome's
      • Expect to send this out tomorrow, out to Martin as soon as possible
    • Jason: Send forum post about client memory allocation - PENDING
  3. Generating sprint # (45 mins)

    • DISCUSSION:

      • JMB has pushed final date to 15th of Sept
      • JMB: If you have things left and you are going away, please update before you leave
        • move out of milestone or complete before
      • Scott's Testing Scenarios:
        • A few of these need feedback to confirm priorities
        • Which scenarios are for this release?
        • JMB: Have you discussed with devs? Mostly.
        • Need work on getting test data for each scenario
          • JMB: Probably better in 4.4; don't want to rush it.
      • Brian
        • Nothing left
      • Andrew
        • Transformation stuff still needs some debugging
          • JMB: Still would be good to see
        • Mailing proposal should happen this week
        • Remainder is documenatation stuff, should be closed very soon
      • Littlewood
        • Is looking at LDAP and getting up to speed with that, working on testing
        • Will need some assistance on this
          • Ola: Is waiting on LDAP duplication for this from downstairs
      • Ola:
        • Moved some of her tickets already to next sprint, remainder are being worked on
        • Most of what remains should be done by next Tuesday
          • Some bugs, also bird's eye view, and annotation
          • Feel free to look at SPW plugin if you want to test
      • JBurel (starting at 14:14)
        • Fixing bugs (matlab), so far only on GRE mporter
        • Helping to merge ome-xml.org. Mostly merged. One left to move.
        • Writing tests on chgrp; lots of possible use cases (trickier than delete)
          • Can't promise too much: ontologies, tags, etc.
      • Josh
        • CHGRP
          • One ticket in progress; can be pushed.
        • HIC
          • Talked to Simon about HIC base, going to get things set up for Simon/Lwood to change files
          • Plan for the next 2 weeks is to set up testing framework, and then show this to HIC
          • Get LWood up to speed on DJango and web
        • FS sleeping for this sprint
        • Misc
          • HIC & FS are in branches
            • we may want to make disposable integration branches to test everything
            • Sounds good
      • Carlos
        • Not looking opensource stuff just now, please move these (busy working on other things)
        • Ola: email sent to you for some clairification?
          • Carlos: Yes will look into these before hand.
        • JMB: Release on the 15th. your tickets won't be done then? can't be in testing group?
          • Carlos: preferrably yes. Can probably spend a half hour here and there
          • Jason: Ola, you're waiting on commentary on bugs?
          • Jason: Carlos has release on Sep. 5th so v. busy till 26th (or longer)
        • Ola: remember 6506
      • Melissa
        • Sent list via email (Scott has seen it)
        • 2 open tickets in sprint. Both bugs, in progress (Leica excitation, svs bug from scott)
      • Simon
        • Only VM user story still here.
        • No tickets in this sprint.
        • 11 tickets in story, all should be moved to next sprint and closed.
          • Half are testing in various stages of completion
          • One future development ticket that is open for tuesday meeting dabate
      • Chris
        • several tickets; Jean-Marie will contact him
    • Outstanding for release

      • All scenarios in place by? - See "discussion" above - IN PROGRESS
      • Anything missing from ReleaseProcess?
        • Code freeze planned.
        • Scenarios planned? Scott: with Melissa's information, we can plan this.
      • RE Bio-formats: Melissa should be ready for her release 1 week before final release (Sept 8th in this case)
        • Josh: If this is not doable, please let us know Melissa
        • Ola Re: Web admin tests, Is this working or not on Hudson
          • Josh: All selinium tests are not running, the rest of the tests run but not with windows
          • Ola: Do you think we will be able to do this before final release? There are gateway changes
          • Josh: Should definitely be part of this process
      • How are we handling docs for release (cF. FS change)?
        • Jason: rephrasing "What's the threshold for complete version?"
        • Andrew: we did have the patch snapshots
        • Jason: Hard to duplicate?
          • Andrew: Not hard but make sure everyone is editing the right one!
        • Scott:
      • Misc
        • JMB: From ReleaseProcess, Cellprofiler is there, should we be testing this?
        • Jason: we're testing a version of CellProfiler that's not supported
          • Suggest we take that off the list
          • Let folks know now to use this! :)
          • Josh: 1) Agree it needs evauluation 2) Not optimal to do this till Will gets back
            • We should have a warning about Cellprofiler 1 being deprecated for now
            • Jason: Let community know, let them also know we will look at CP2 soon as a priority
        • Ola: last time we didn't have the box on the top
          • Problem: didn't see this so we would know what to do.
          • Andrew: sent an email, but can turn on the box.
          • Snapshot -> edit it -> then switch.
          • Banner when you're logged in.
        • JMB: Andrew put up a proposal page for a new N-DIM solution, please look at it
          • Feedback welcome
          • Andrew: Upgradeable hack with up to 7 dimensions
          • Josh: Have read it, seems redable, perhaps something structured we can later turn into arrays perhaps
            • This keeps people from doing string parsing
            • Andrew: Can discuss this later, but picked current method as a standard xml method for string arrays
            • JMB: Lets have a meeting about this tomorrow?
            • Josh: Can but we should wait to hear from chris for importer parts
            • JMB: OK lets read it and prep meeting next week
    • To discuss (starting at 14:47)

      • #6504 Commenting on well
        • JMB: example of lack of communication
        • Insight added comments at wellsample level, 1.5 yr ago.
        • Web could see data since 4.1, was always at the image level.
        • Lack of synchronization in the clients.
        • But we won't have any DB uprade in 4.3.2
        • Ola: problem to fix in next release definitely
          • Since 4.1 no one has reported that can't see annotations in web
          • a lot of work, perhaps ok to not fix.
        • Jason: right that's a lot of work, but something we've done poorly should be fixed
          • reduces the attractiveness of what we're trying to do.
          • problem for ourselves is that our strict schedules breaks the process.
          • Ola: Concern is that these are deep changes, requires more testing
            • Also not a complex solution, will still be broken deep in at the gateway
          • Jason: More people using web in more complexed way, need consistent web/insight workflows
          • JMB: Ideally DB ugprade to fix this, insight+web adjusted after.
            • Since no DB upgrade in 4.3.2, we may need a less ideal solution to this problem
            • Jason: Are there other things like?
            • JMB: May be, ROI was addressed last time
            • Ola: Scripting + DOM could be a problem now after SWP changes
            • Jason: general point, if there are more things lurking then we may need to fix them
            • After that, if there are more changes, we address the deeper problems
            • JMB: I seem to remember some screens without binary data but annotations, so annotations may need to be on wellsample
            • How is this set up now? Required or by convention? Carlos: Not sure right.
              • Andrew: May need a way to mark images as 'bogus' for a screen (as opposed to bogus in general)
            • Conclusion: Ola and JMB will look at how long it will take to make changes for 4.3.2, then go from there
  4. Email and Forum Review - checked at (5 mins)

    • Email -

      • http://lists.openmicroscopy.org.uk/pipermail/ome-users/2011-August/002754.html
        • Needs a reponse
        • JMB: He posted a problem with previews earlier
          • May need to get things running for long periods of time to test
          • JMB: Will email him to ask for details
      • http://lists.openmicroscopy.org.uk/pipermail/ome-users/2011-August/002749.html
        • May already be fixed, Josh will check with user
    • Forums

    • QA -
      link

      3939    new unknown Importer 4.3.0-7734 2011 08 17  DO_1h30_17_R3D.dv   -   java.lang.RuntimeExceptio... (All these closed: User ran out of space)
      3938    new unknown Importer 4.3.0-7734 2011 08 17  Ctrl_45min_13_R3D.dv    -   java.lang.RuntimeExceptio...
      3937    new unknown Importer 4.3.0-7734 2011 08 17  Ctrl_45min_12_R3D.dv    -   java.lang.RuntimeExceptio...
      3936    new unknown Importer 4.3.0-7734 2011 08 17  DO_1h30_10_R3D.dv   -   java.lang.RuntimeExceptio...
      3935    new unknown Importer 4.3.0-7734 2011 08 17  DO_1h30_14_R3D_cmle.r3d -   java.lang.RuntimeExceptio...
      3934    new caron.grif@g... Insight 4.2.2   2011 08 17  -   trying to open a project folde...   java.lang.Exception: org....
      3933    new G.Akman@suss... Insight 4.3.0   2011 08 15  -   -   java.lang.Exception: Abno...
      3931    new S.C.Moser@du... Insight 4.3.1   2011 08 12  -   saving ROI  java.lang.Exception: org....
      3930    new bwestra@uore... Insight 4.3.0   2011 08 11  cb_2_L24R15 002.png I'm doing a trial; can you tel...   java.lang.NullPointerExce...
      3929    new bwestra@uore... Insight 4.3.0   2011 08 11  cb_2_L24R15 001.png I'm doing a trial; can you tel...   java.lang.NullPointerExce...
      3928    new bwestra@uore... Insight 4.3.0   2011 08 11  cb_3_L24R15 003.png I'm doing a trial; can you tel...   java.lang.NullPointerExce...
      3927    new bwestra@uore... Insight 4.3.0   2011 08 11  cb_3_L24R15 002.png I'm doing a trial; can you tel...   java.lang.NullPointerExce...
      3926    new bwestra@uore... Insight 4.3.0   2011 08 11  cb_3_L24R15 001.png I'm doing a trial; can you tel...   java.lang.NullPointerExce...
      3925    new e.griffis@du... Insight 4.3.1   2011 08 11  -   -   java.lang.Exception: Abno...
      3924    new rpalmisano@u... Importer 4.3.1-6d4b 2011 08 10  harris.tif  -   java.lang.NullPointerExce...
      3923    new lem@stowers.... Insight 4.3.0   2011 08 09  -   -   java.lang.Exception: java...
      3921    new S.C.Moser@du... Insight 4.3.1   2011 08 05  -   hi guys, it can't import some ...   -
      3920    new S.C.Moser@du... Insight 4.3-DEV 2011 08 05  -   Hi guys, there is a bug today ...   -
      3913    new unknown Insight 4.3.1   2011 08 02  -   Loading a new set of ROIs to a...   java.lang.Exception: Abno...
      3912    new r.disanto@du... Insight 4.3.1   2011 08 02  -   -   java.lang.Exception: Abno...
      
      • Importers ones resolved, insight ones being looked into by JMB
  5. Any other business (<5 mins)

Action Items

  • Josh: add python tests running on hudson to ReleaseProcess
  • Free time? Look at the new SPW work for Ola on Gretzky
  • Ola: Please send Carlos a reminder by email for any of his outstanding tickets you sent to him
  • Carlos: Look at ticket 6506
  • Jean-Marie/Josh: document deprecating/non-testing CellProfiler1 & ticket examining CellProfiler2
  • Andrew: take a snapshot of the documentation; document how to do it.
  • Andrew: Send email about n-dim proposal with array support and arrange meeting for next week (including Chris)
  • Jburel: Reply to email http://lists.openmicroscopy.org.uk/pipermail/ome-users/2011-August/002754.html re: disconnections
  • Josh: Reply to email ttp://lists.openmicroscopy.org.uk/pipermail/ome-users/2011-August/002749.html to see if already fixed DONE
  • Andrew: Email Big Image TIFF 4G user and see if you can help
  • Jean-Marie: talk to Sandra

Action Points for Tuesday

  • Plan Mini-group of new Schema license.
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