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2011-05-19 Thursday Meeting

Attending: Brian, Ola, Will, Donald, Jean-Marie, Carlos, Josh, Melissa, Jason, Chris, Colin, Scott, Simon, ... Mike Rossner

Agenda

Remember: Agenda must be complete (with estimated times) on the day before the meeting. Any additions after that must go at the bottom (AOCB)

  1. Accepting minutes from last meeting

  2. Matters Arising (<10 mins)

    • Chris: fix OMERO.clients build
    • Ola: Upgrade server and email folks each morning
    • Scott: send an email clarifying where to create tickets (RFE, BUG, ...)
    • Andrew: Handle logistics for getting Mac RAM upgraded
    • Everyone: When completed your importing test (and bug tickets created), you can close your task
    • Reminder: Everyone make sure you grab the latest clients daily
    • Curtis: Send info for imagej-devel mailing list so folks can join
  3. Schema release, code generation and model impact; lessons learned (5 mins)

  4. OME Mtg Agenda (5 min)

  5. New project positions (5 mins)

  6. Generating sprint # (45 mins)

    • What New Tasks were added to old sprint
    • What Tasks are left in old sprint
    • Make new sprint
    • Estimates
    • Close old sprint and move other tasks into new sprint
    • Review bugs that already might be for future milestone.
    • Ensure the correct information is added to a bug.
    • Revisions to the way the bugs are submitted now under 5369 or 5371. These Will continue to change as we move through each testing phase.
    • All updates on trac front page.
  7. Email and Forum Review - checked at (5 mins)

    • Email - none unanswered in past week

    • Forums -

    • QA -
      link

      ID  Status  User/email  Type    Created Selected file   Comment Error
      3746    new ajpatterson@... Web 4.3.0-DEV-  2011 05 19  -   Selecting date in callender.    Traceback (most recent ca...
      3744    new unknown Insight 4.2.1   2011 05 18  -   -   java.lang.Exception: java...
      3738    new alpaka.mahle... Insight 4.2.2   2011 05 16  -   -   java.lang.Exception: java...
      3735    new lnierobi@ncc... Insight 4.2.2   2011 05 12  -   -   java.lang.Exception: org....
      3734    new unknown Web 4.3.0-DEV-  2011 05 10  -   from scott the bug you asked m...   Traceback (most recent ca...
      3727    new jacques.pecr... Web 4.2.2-r871  2011 05 03  -   Annotation was created using t...   Traceback (most recent ca...
      3721    new jacques.pecr... Web 4.2.2-r871  2011 05 02  -   Bug obtained when linking mult...   Traceback (most recent ca...
      
  8. Any other business (<5 mins)

In Attendance

  • Brian, Ola, Will, Donald, Jean-Marie, Carlos, Josh, Melissa, Jason, Chris, Colin, Scott, Simon, ... Mike Rossner

Notes

  1. Accepting minutes from last meeting

    • ACCEPTED
  2. Matters Arising (<10 mins)

    • Chris: fix OMERO.clients build - PENDING
      • Building sporatically. Dependency builds are causing an issue. Need to spend time figuring out best way to fix
      • For the moment will just leave it alone. We all know where to get the clients.
      • Jason: Need to make sure we have links for the right location to front page of trac
    • Ola: Upgrade server and email folks each morning - DONE
    • Scott: send an email clarifying where to create tickets (RFE, BUG, ...)
      • JMB: Moved some tickets from phase 1 to a related bug story
    • Andrew: Handle logistics for getting Mac RAM upgraded - WAITING ON REPLIES FROM FOLKS
    • Everyone: When completed your importing test (and bug tickets created), you can close your task - IN PROGRESS
    • Reminder: Everyone make sure you grab the latest clients daily - DONE (SEE BELOW ACTION ITEMS FOR CHANGES)
    • Curtis: Send info for imagej-devel mailing list so folks can join - SENT EMAIL OUT
    • Will: Need to arrange testing of web mobile and (wording for release? Are we releasing?) DONE
      • Made a testing scenario
      • Jason will take it
    • Andrew: set up autogenerated ome-xml and get Chris to set up Cron on necromancer DONE
    • Scott: add developer testing stories: "go to scripting page, and do X, ..." INPROGRESS
    • Josh: first RC release next Thursday. Corresponding to Scott's testing phases. ONGOING
    • Andrew: order a hi-res projector PENDING
    • Brian: manual fixes to workplan PENDING
  3. Schema release, code generation and model impact; lessons learned (5 mins)

    • Chris: discussed over lunch
    • have had to add several things to generation
    • will need to verify server/model/database to make sure we're in sync
    • in the future, it is critical to have model & schema finalized weeks before freeze
    • "what is the exhaustive list of changes?" didn't exist.
    • even if it's just an internal release, has to be set.
    • Smallest schema change impacts the entire code base * Bio-Formats, import, export, big images, etc.
    • Jason: mgmt issue, the work wasn't scheduled, etc.
      • Andrew: Really the schema freeze should be a month ahead of time
      • JMB: Should have release candidate, etc. A real schedule.
      • Jason: release schedule needs to be set in stone before hand, and influence vacations, etc.
      • Andrew: Schema pages are on the right place in the devel branch
        • validator in right place but needs fixing (not working)
  4. OME Mtg Agenda (5 min)

    • Good registrations for Paris
    • Need less overview and more details presented from the development team
    • Also outside users/developers who have valid things to present
    • Jason will see about doing a draft agenda based on upcoming user presentations
    • Dinners will be buffet style, but with some seating for folks to talk
    • AGREED: not going out to eat the first night, but staying in.
  5. New project positions (5 mins)

    • Jason: Project manager position is now public
      • Space issues arriving. Jason is looking to deal with that.
      • Big (admin) challenge dealing with new satellite setups.
  6. Generating sprint # (45 mins)

    • Pre-discussion

      • Revisions to the way the bugs are submitted now under 5369 or 5371. These Will continue to change as we move through each testing phase.
      • All updates on trac front page.
    • Big images (Chris): 2 big items in next sprint; 1 in current

      • Finalizing default thumbnails
        • When thumbnailing you should not be able to detect (other then color) if the thumbnail is missing
        • Needs a placeholder to replace 'blue thumbnail'
      • Arithmetic issues with JP2 for small tile sizes
      • Enabling multi-threaded compression for pyramid generation
      • Adding metrics to generation so folks now how long to expect
        • Seems to be fairly linear
        • Should be able to show this in clients
    • JMB: A lot of folks jamming everything into the current sprint

      • Josh: We got past the 50% mark so some success
      • Far fewer big tickets left now, but many without assigned times. Need fixes
      • Tester should assign ticket to fixer, fixer should then handle them (handed off, assigned, etc)
      • Jason: added responsibility is to evaluate bugs as they come in - ideally daily
      • Jason: part of the morning process? upgrade, clients, and tickets? Sounds good. Has to happen.
      • Chris: We should add alias for 'web team' for ownership of web items.
      • Scott: Be aware of bugs that are being created that might already be accomodated by future work
      • JMB: Lets be careful of pushing bugs out of 4.3 if they are small, we should try to make them in
    • JMB: When creating new tickets without a sprint, will end up in report 11 (future tasks). Folks should keep an eye on that.

    • Testing

      • JMB: don't want to keep dragging on tickets
      • Jason: in initial testing, very few bugs
      • But it's hard to know what servers/clients/etc.
      • Go back to testing phase mid of next week.
      • JMB: 2 days max for scenarios
      • Need to be specific in scenarios (e.g. "tool tips are saying different things")j
      • Should put estimates on the test scenarios so we know what it will take each person
      • Jason: Do we want a release candidate right now? Not yet.
      • Scott: assign a particular importer per tester
  7. Email and Forum Review - checked at (5 mins)

    • Email - none unanswered in past week
    • Forums -
    • QA -
      link
      • 3746 new ajpatterson@... Web 4.3.0-DEV- 2011 05 19 - Selecting date in callender. Traceback (most recent ca...
      • 3744 new unknown Insight 4.2.1 2011 05 18 - - java.lang.Exception: java...
      • 3738 new alpaka.mahle... Insight 4.2.2 2011 05 16 - - java.lang.Exception: java...
      • 3735 new lnierobi@ncc... Insight 4.2.2 2011 05 12 - - java.lang.Exception: org....
      • 3734 new unknown Web 4.3.0-DEV- 2011 05 10 - from scott the bug you asked m... Traceback (most recent ca...
      • 3727 new jacques.pecr... Web 4.2.2-r871 2011 05 03 - Annotation was created using t... Traceback (most recent ca...
      • 3721 new jacques.pecr... Web 4.2.2-r871 2011 05 02 - Bug obtained when linking mult... Traceback (most recent ca...
  8. Any other business (<5 mins)

Action Items

  • Ola: When updating server, go to insight trunk and omero trunk and set latest build to QA,
    • Then update everyone with info (by email or trac)
  • JMB: Fix trac front page based on the above changes (by email now)
  • Will: assign web-mobile testing scenario to Jason
  • Andrew: add to agenda TODO list "copy PENDING to new action items" - done
  • Andrew: add ticket for validator
  • JMB: Need a release plan page on the wiki (Andrew: should make it generic to be copy/pasted per release)
    • Andrew: add "schema freeze" to release schedule documentation page
    • Josh: use or delete "ReleaseProcess" from wiki
  • Andrew: post CLS vacancy on webpage, lists, forums (http://www.lifesci.dundee.ac.uk/vacancies/2011/05/16/project-manager) - done
  • GUI teams: implement or ticket showing MissingPyramidException.backOff to users.
  • Scott: start Phase II (import only) once Melissa signs off on changes.
  • Scott: add times next to scenarios.
  • Everyone: record scenarios
  • Chris: reply to forum user re: big images and preparing a screencast video for him.
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