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2011-05-05 Thursday Meeting

Attending: Brian, Ola, Will, Donald, Jean-Marie, Josh, Melissa, Chris, Scott, Simon, Andrew, Carlos, Jason (a bit late)

Agenda

Remember: Agenda must be complete (with estimated times) on the day before the meeting. Any additions after that must go at the bottom (AOCB)

  1. Apologies: Andrew - I may have to leave early.

  2. Accepting minutes from last meeting

  3. Matters Arising (<10 mins)

    • Everyone: Go through tickets. Be realistic for end of this sprint on Thursday
    • Will: Respond to Perrine about his OME-XML question on [ome-users]
  4. Generating sprint # (45 mins)

    • Feature Status
      • Big images
      • 4.3 DB - any changes?
    • Ticket status
      • Did we get our backlog down?
      • FYI: tasks left per sprint
        • Sprint: 2011-05-05 (11) (19 matches)
        • Sprint: 2011-05-19 (12) (58 matches)
        • Sprint: 2011-06-02 (13) (6 matches)
        • Sprint: 2011-06-16 (14) (1 match)
        • Sprint: None (157 matches)
  5. Email and Forum Review - checked at 10:30 (5 mins)

    • Email - Carnë Draug [ome-users] Changing /services/OMERO/home for OMERO.importer

    • Forums -

    • QA -
      link

      ID  Status  User/email  Type    Created Selected file   Comment Error
      3730    new morelli@mpi-... Insight 4.2.2   2011 05 04  -   -   java.lang.Exception: Abno...
      3729    new lim_soon_yew... Web 4.2.2-r871  2011 05 04  -   -   Traceback (most recent ca...
      3728    new shawn.garbet... Importer 4.2.2-r871 2011 05 03  Experiment.exp  I decided that getting that on...   java.lang.RuntimeExceptio...
      3727    new jacques.pecr... Web 4.2.2-r871  2011 05 03  -   Annotation was created using t...   Traceback (most recent ca...
      3724    new shawn.garbet... Importer 4.2.3-DEV- 2011 05 02  Experiment.exp  This build on an import crashe...   Ice.ConnectionLostExcepti...
      3723    new jacques.pecr... Insight 4.2.2   2011 05 02  -   -   java.lang.Exception: org....
      3722    new jacques.pecr... Insight 4.2.2   2011 05 02  -   -   java.lang.Exception: org....
      3721    new jacques.pecr... Web 4.2.2-r871  2011 05 02  -   Bug obtained when linking mult...   Traceback (most recent ca...
      
  6. Any other business (<5 mins)

In Attendance

Brian, Ola, Will, Donald, Jean-Marie, Josh, Melissa, Chris, Scott, Simon, Andrew, Carlos, Jason (a bit late)

Notes

  1. Accepting minutes from last meeting

    • Accepted
  2. Matters Arising (<10 mins)

    • Everyone: Go through tickets. Be realistic for end of this sprint on Thursday
      • Still lots of tickets without owners. 157 without a sprint.
      • Many of those are for testing (40-50)
    • Will: Respond to Perrine about his OME-XML question on [ome-users]
      • Done
  3. Generating sprint # (45 mins)

    • Jean-Marie: Sprints 9 & 10 didn't have any screenshots
      • Can add some big image
      • Jason: agreed, good idea, hugely valuable. Have to keep an eye on it.
      • Josh: searching HDF files? No reason not to.
    • Feature Status
      • Big images (5 min; start 14:09)
        • Down to the last 1 of the problems mentioned before - working on this now
        • i.e. generating extra compressed content for low rez
        • metadata imports are all working (2900, 5099)
        • SVS & Trestle files will now do an archive based import
          • 5098 (min/max) for this still being worked on by Colin (then functional)
          • To improve performance need to get threading working with this
      • 4.3 DB - any changes?
        • Josh: any other changes coming, or can we s/4.3DEV/4.3/?
        • Andrew: fonts?
          • Jean-Marie: values will be lazily updated from the measurement tool
        • Chris: Subtle model for screens done. (didn't put restriction on fields)
        • Postgres 8.1 restriction is in as an error (instead of old warning)
    • Ticket status
      • Did we get our backlog down?
      • FYI: tasks left per sprint
        • Sprint: 2011-05-05 (11) (19 matches)
        • Sprint: 2011-05-19 (12) (58 matches)
        • Sprint: 2011-06-02 (13) (6 matches)
        • Sprint: 2011-06-16 (14) (1 match)
        • Sprint: None (157 matches)
      • Discussion
        • Josh: About 100 tickets (157 minus the testing ones) that need to be answered for
        • JMB: May not be able to get those into 4.3
        • JMB: Suggest one small iteration for adding and one small for testing
        • Will: haven't we tried this before? JMB: weren't strict enough.
        • JMB: We have lots of little things (half a day or less) that could be done. We keep skipping these
        • Jason: Would be nice to clean up frayed edges - makes sense
        • Jason: finish 4.3.0 on which calendar date? * JMB: sprint 13, June 7th should be done (for Paris) * JMB: sprint 14 could perhaps be the start of 4.3.1 * Chris: 4 weeks of total work not including Paris trip
        • Jason (to keep in mind) * After major release, bugs will be coming in * Paris will be a lot of prep work (at least a week) * Scott: Martin's trip in June/July also to consider * Will: Is it vital for us to fix the time for release? * Chris: Overdue for a release (so folks don't need to download hudson builds) * JMB: We have features 6 months old that need releasing! (e.g. the OMERO.ij issue) * Jason: tickets which are the difference between there being a barrier and not. * Jason: Sounds reasonable to go ahead with JMB's proposal, will have to manage this * ie: hand out tasks where needed from pool of tickets remaining * Will: do we expect everyone to upgrade 2-3 times? Will we provide enough features? * Jason: in 4.3 we're addressing 2 major defects in OMERO/BF * Forget PM view for second. What's important is what it does * A. Both are defective for big images, and frequency of that data is increasing * B. Need to solve data duplication issue. Places out there that could use this * Also, imageJ links not done and should be * Finally, if there's a technical reason we can move the deadline back * but we must start meeting our deadlines for community * small point fixes are ok afterwards but need functionality out there * Scott: another reason to have automatic updates * JMB/Chris: Still need to be careful - a complexed issue with model, api, etc. * JMB: Proposal accepted, will set up a short iteration for low hanging fruit * Jason: Will's point is correct that users are sensitive to frequent updates and release schedules * But (Scott) let's use Paris to guage that sensitivity
    • Documentation changes
      • Will updated front page of the trac
      • More diagram changes are coming from Will
      • Should the front page of the trac be OMERO centric, or balanced between all OME tools?
        • Jason: Would try to make it as universal as possible
        • JMB: Maybe a few icons at the top of the page for each sub-project
          • Will: Makes sense; can do that
      • Chris: date of turning off ome-xml.org
        • JMB: shoola trac can be shut down
        • Chris: Entry point for Bio-formats? Still have some content on the LOCI trac
          • Melissa: Most moved over, mostly auto-generated metadata docs left
          • Chris: Could in principle move that then as well and close LOCI trac
          • Andrew: may want to close off some of our other sites names as well (ex: dev-www.o…)
          • Chris: should make them hard redirects
        • Chris: SVN source, revision, ticket numbers in OME trac
          • Brian did regex replaces and sent to nitpick
          • Josh: Convert rABCD to git?
          • Chris: Should we go through the effort?
            • Can do lookups by scripting through git
            • More work with some scripting
            • JMB: Not sure we should bother. If mostly on workplan pages, these are going to be deleted
          • Chris: Josh also suggested we link to git web instead of source links
            • Could do this universally; better way.
            • currently, source:ome.git is tied to develop branch and can't currently be changed
            • Josh: most importantly in the IncludeMacro
            • Will: Would like to know more about how to use the source include macros for wiki examples
            • Andrew: Will have to look at the autogenerated ome-xml examples and how to make them work
              • Could go back to cron job
            • JMB: There are a few examples of other 'pre-config' options that should be done as well
  4. Email and Forum Review - checked at 10:30 (5 mins)

    • Email - Carnë Draug [ome-users] Changing /services/OMERO/home for OMERO.importer

    • Forums -

    • QA -
      link

      ID  Status  User/email  Type    Created Selected file   Comment Error
      3730    new morelli@mpi-... Insight 4.2.2   2011 05 04  -   -   java.lang.Exception: Abno...
      3729    new lim_soon_yew... Web 4.2.2-r871  2011 05 04  -   -   Traceback (most recent ca...
      3728    new shawn.garbet... Importer 4.2.2-r871 2011 05 03  Experiment.exp  I decided that getting that on...   java.lang.RuntimeExceptio...
      3727    new jacques.pecr... Web 4.2.2-r871  2011 05 03  -   Annotation was created using t...   Traceback (most recent ca...
      3724    new shawn.garbet... Importer 4.2.3-DEV- 2011 05 02  Experiment.exp  This build on an import crashe...   Ice.ConnectionLostExcepti...
      3723    new jacques.pecr... Insight 4.2.2   2011 05 02  -   -   java.lang.Exception: org....
      3722    new jacques.pecr... Insight 4.2.2   2011 05 02  -   -   java.lang.Exception: org....
      3721    new jacques.pecr... Web 4.2.2-r871  2011 05 02  -   Bug obtained when linking mult...   Traceback (most recent ca...
      
  5. Any other business (<5 mins)

    • ICY: evaluated. few issues with versions (talking to nightshade)

Action Items

  • Andrew: Add ticket and/or close ome-xml.org
  • Melissa: Add ticket and/or create bioformats landing page (auto-generated content, etc)
  • Andrew: figure out how to filter other ome.org.* domains from google
  • Brian: figure out how many revision counts outside of WorkPlan
  • Brian: Convert all ome.git links to source links
  • Andrew: find different autogenerated ome-xml examples setup
  • Brian: email Carne about OMERO.importer log file (let him know not currently configurable)
  • Brian: email Shawn (QA) about recurring issue
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