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2011-04-07 Thursday Meeting

Attending: Brian, Jason, Chris, Carlos, Josh, Melissa, Will, Simon, Andrew, Donald (14:30)

Agenda

Remember: Agenda must be complete (with estimated times) on the day before the meeting. Any additions after that must go at the bottom (AOCB)

  1. Apologies: Scott, Ola, Jean-Marie are away at 'OMERO in Action'

  2. Accepting minutes from last meeting

  3. Matters Arising (<10 mins)

    • Put in outstanding action points from last Thursday or Tuesday meeting
    • JMB: Forward email from Jerome (with PDF) to team
    • Jason: Invite Spencer to next week's meeting for Workshop Post Mortum?
    • Will: Email community and alert to blitz gateway changes
    • Will: look at changes pending to blitz and schedule another meeting
    • Ola: Field size for XYZ panel needs fixing (should be ticket for this already)
    • Team: look at new insight-import features, feedback welcome. Look for bugs!
    • Andrew: Send Jason stats - done
    • Andrew: Clean award for photograph
    • Andrew: Sorting through t-shirts. Sent 2 x S, 2 x M, 2 x L, 2 x XL, 1 x 2XL from old ASCB (Most 2010, some 2009, one 2008)
    • Workshop Team: Remember screenshots on Milestone page - PENDING
      • Chris: Josh and I will try to make a current features page for this
    • Chris: Reply to "copy all metadata" question from Jerome - PENDING
  4. Generating sprint # (45 mins)

    • What New Tasks were added to old sprint
    • What Tasks are left in old sprint
    • Make new sprint
    • Estimates
    • Close old sprint and move other tasks into new sprint
  5. Email and Forum Review - checked at (5 mins)

    • Email - none

    • Forums - Re: Recovering Metadata on tile positions - continuation of old conversation

    • QA -
      link

      | All | Importer Comment | Importer Bug | Insight Comment | Insight Bug | Test Engine Bug | Web Bug | QA Bug |
      ID  Status  User/email  Type    Created Selected file   Comment Error
      3668    new m.porter@dun... Insight 4.2.2   2011 04 06  -   I right-clicked an ROI shape i...   java.lang.Exception: org....
      3667    new ch-n@gmx.net... QA  2011 04 06  -   -   -
      3666    new unknown Web 4.1.1   2011 04 05  -   -   Content-Type: text/html ...
      3665    new jason@lifesi... Insight 4.3-DEV 2011 04 05  -   Mousing over thumbnails gives ...   -
      3664    new helio.roque@... Insight 4.2.2   2011 04 04  -   Dear OMERO developers, I have...    -
      3663    new helio.roque@... Insight 4.2.2   2011 04 04  -   After moving a roi pressed sav...   java.lang.Exception: org....
      3660    new jason@lifesc... Insight 4.3-DEV 2011 04 03  -   Closing screen view, after loa...   java.lang.Exception: Abno...
      3655    new n.y.patel@du... Insight 4.2.2   2011 04 01  -   Looking at older images, befor...   java.lang.Exception: Abno...
      3647    new jason@lifesc... Insight 4.3-DEV 2011 03 30  -   viewing plates with ROIs.   java.lang.Exception: org....
      
  6. Any other business (<5 mins)

In Attendance

Brian, Jason, Chris, Carlos, Josh, Melissa, Will, Simon, Andrew, Donald (14:30)

Notes

  1. Apologies: Scott, Ola, Jean-Marie are away at 'OMERO in Action'

  2. Accepting minutes from last meeting 14:00

  3. Matters Arising (<10 mins)

    • Put in outstanding action points from last Thursday or Tuesday meeting
    • JMB: Forward email from Jerome (with PDF) to team -- DONE
    • Jason: Invite Spencer to next week's meeting for Workshop Post Mortum? DONE
    • Will: Email community and alert to blitz gateway changes - DRAFT DONE, (Discucsion coming later today)
    • Will: look at changes pending to blitz and schedule another meeting - SEE NOTE ABOVE
    • Ola: Field size for XYZ panel needs fixing (should be ticket for this already) - TICKTED
    • Team: look at new insight-import features, feedback welcome. Look for bugs! - PENDING Mondays Code Updates
    • Andrew: Send Jason stats - DONE
    • Andrew: Clean award for photograph - IN THE WORKS
      • Case measured
    • Andrew: Sorting through t-shirts. Sent 2 x S, 2 x M, 2 x L, 2 x XL, 1 x 2XL from old ASCB (Most 2010, some 2009, one 2008)
    • Workshop Team: Remember screenshots on Milestone page - SENT DOWN
      • Chris: Josh and I will try to make a current features page for this - SORTED
    • Chris: Reply to "copy all metadata" question from Jerome - IN THE WORKS. Email mostly done. Will send out after finished
  4. Generating sprint # (45 mins) - 14:15

    • What New Tasks were added to old sprint
    • What Tasks are left in old sprint
    • Make new sprint
    • Estimates
    • Close old sprint and move other tasks into new sprint
    • Summary
      • Chris: LOTS of dangling stuff around this sprint (lots of 80% done tickets)
      • Josh: By and large lots of breaking work done
      • Jason: Hopefully next spring will 'over produce' as a result
        • Chris: Should see lots close in the next few days
      • Last several sprints: 140 -> 105 -> 75 -> 60. Looking to have 100 tickets in the next sprint.
      • Will: should we create all the sprints up to the release?
        • Chris: probably for sprint planning, we should create all that are left
        • We were hoping to get down to zero (single digits?) in backlog for end of next sprint
        • Jason: let's go through tickets in detail
    • Upcoming merges / Testing
      • New database on Monday - should wait for testing till then
      • Similarly for the new Big Images API
      • Chris: Need to have testing scenarios
        • NB: Jean-Marie is away next week
        • Will, have you looked at the updates?
      • Josh: we will also need a phase of upgrade testing (scripts not ready yet)
      • Melissa: do we have the definitive list of the new formats
        • Not yet. Can just diff readers.txt in bf
        • Confident with volocity? Yeah, all datasets are opening
        • How much metadata? PhysicalSize, image name, channel names, magnification, detector name
        • Jason: round of applause for Melissa
  5. Email and Forum Review - checked at (5 mins) - 14:30

    • Email - none
    • Forums - Re: Recovering Metadata on tile positions - continuation of old conversation
    • QA -
      link * ID Status User/email Type Created Selected file Comment Error * 3668 new m.porter@dun... Insight 4.2.2 2011 04 06 - I right-clicked an ROI shape i... java.lang.Exception: org.... * 3667 new ch-n@gmx.net... QA 2011 04 06 - - - * 3666 new unknown Web 4.1.1 2011 04 05 - - Content-Type: text/html ... * 3665 new jason@lifesi... Insight 4.3-DEV 2011 04 05 - Mousing over thumbnails gives ... - * 3664 new helio.roque@... Insight 4.2.2 2011 04 04 - Dear OMERO developers, I have... - * 3663 new helio.roque@... Insight 4.2.2 2011 04 04 - After moving a roi pressed sav... java.lang.Exception: org.... * 3660 new jason@lifesc... Insight 4.3-DEV 2011 04 03 - Closing screen view, after loa... java.lang.Exception: Abno... * 3655 new n.y.patel@du... Insight 4.2.2 2011 04 01 - Looking at older images, befor... java.lang.Exception: Abno... * 3647 new jason@lifesc... Insight 4.3-DEV 2011 03 30 - viewing plates with ROIs. java.lang.Exception: org.... * 3667 (QA for file) - Melissa looking into it
    • Many of the QAs come from nightshade's disk filling up. * Nightshade is currently almost full so lots of the above errors are caused by this. * Chris will get Jason the details so he can delete some data * Chris: Third highest user also said, "I'm not using OMERO anymore" * Jason: this is a great use case for bulk export * Jason: users who stand out: Emma King, Phillipe, Nazan * Also: Roman Li and perhaps Zuojun (delete's not working; see email from November 24th) * Jason: Would really like to log in and decide what goes!
  6. Any other business (<5 mins)

    • Jason: Norwich
      • Pretty impressive; many from the UK, a couple from the continent
      • Imperial: Convincing people to use OMERO (workflow as it stands)
      • Geneva: integrated analysis
      • Jerome: "render on the server"
        • We will push hard to get it running in Dundee
      • A lot of people starting to use it in anger
      • A lot coming online
      • Message: "OMERO is a platform that is ready for use" (Mark Woodbridge)
        • includes server & API
        • clients as they exist, but satisfy some people's workflows
        • aren't fully competent
        • you probably have to expect to have someone who can work with the clients and update them
        • insight has a large burden to understand
        • web is easier
        • installation issues abound
      • Christoph Best
        • talking about how Google works with data
        • OMERO is the type of tech they're using, and in the way it should be done
      • number of potential success stories
        • at least 4 people asked, how do I get my hands on analysis scripts (matlab, etc.)?
        • isn't it time to start running a repository.
        • people aren't talking about a webpage with scripts
        • they want analysis by facebook, i.e. a platform for collaboration
        • Josh: Knime is using Eclipse upgrade sites, and several big entities are getting involved
        • Will: myexperiment has an entire project based on exactly this (originally Taverna)
          • Accreditation if someone uses your script
          • "This script was adapted from that script"
          • Very similar environment.
    • ImageJ in the cloud (josh)
      • Josh: not sure if we should respond
      • Chris: there's not exactly an overlap
      • Jason: in Norwich there were comments about improving the integration with ImageJ
        • Possibly sitting down with Johannes for coding

Action Items

* Team: Reconcile merges with burndown next TUESDDAY
* Jean-Marie: create all sprints til release
* Brian/Scott: finalize the testing scenarios - FRIDAY. Reassign tasks based on what's done now
* Melissa: define new formats need to be tested
* Brian: prepare test_images_good with Melissa's list
* Jason: Try to delete group member data from 4.2.2 insight
    * OR Chris: reset passwords for Elena and Emma
* Josh: Delete data for Zuojun (id=2914)
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