2011-02-10 Thursday Meeting

In Attendance: Chris, Brian, Scott, Colin, Jean-Marie, Donald, Will, Ola, Josh, Melissa, Jason

Agenda

Remember: Agenda must be complete (with estimated times) on the day before the meeting. Any additions after that must go at the bottom (AOCB)

Accepting minutes from last meeting
Matters Arising (<10 mins)
- Review/update "4.3+ Priorities" i.e. list of "big things" for next sprint review
- Screen-shots:
  - ROIs in web
  - Render region in web
- Chris: move trac.../omero to trac.../ome
- Chris: draft front page of trac
- Everyone: Go through old bugs and take ownership of 'unowned' tickets
  - All tickets have an owner by Thursday!
- See pending items
- Brian: Move new TOC to plone site
- Brian: email Andrew to send AJ to ome-xml
- ???: Improve milestone page
- Everybody: plan by Thursday all tickets for sprint 6
- Donald & Colin: Meet before thursday to discuss importer/thumbnailing
- Donald (for next Tuesday Feb. 15th) Presentation
- For sprint (6): Review https://trac.openmicroscopy.org.uk/omero/report/9 and reduce tickets
- Webviewer and zooming detailed by Thursday!
- Will: send email about Blitz connection and API unification meeting on Tuesday
Sprint Update (20 mins)

Email and Forum Review - checked at 13:50 (5 mins)

Email -
- [ome-users] up to date
- [ome-devel] up to date
Forums - all answered or waiting user feedback
- Import Speed
- Querying External XML

QA -
link

3201    new     jason@lifesc...     Web 4.2.3-DEV-      2011 02 05      -   If I search on some text, get ...   -
3200    new     m.wasowicz@i...     Insight 4.2.2   2011 02 04  -   tagging images  java.lang.Exception: org....
3198    new     S.C.Moser@du...     Insight 4.2.1   2011 02 04  -   past settings   java.lang.Exception: org....
3197    new     josh@glencoe...     Importer 4.3.0-DEV  2011 02 03  a.pic   Sent from CLI   java.io.EOFException: Att...
3193    new     ben@biobus.o...     Web 4.2.2-r871  2011 02 02  -   Is there a way to play time se...   -
3180    new     N.Hegarat@su...     Insight 4.1.1   2011 01 29  -   I was doing a projection    java.lang.Exception: org....
3177    new     bhcho@cmu.ed...     Insight 4.2.1   2011 01 28  -   I was launching my Script. It ...   java.lang.Exception: java...
3173    new     B.Broughton@...     Web 4.2.2-r871  2011 01 27  -   Having just fixed a Web on pro...   Traceback (most recent ca...

3204 #4296

Any other business (<5 mins)

In Attendance

Chris, Brian, Scott, Colin, Jean-Marie, Donald, Will, Ola, Josh, Melissa, Jason

Notes

Accepting minutes from last meeting
- Done
Matters Arising (<10 mins)
- Review/update "4.3+ Priorities" i.e. list of "big things" for next sprint review -- DONE ON TUESDAY
  - Josh and Jean-Marie will fix up the milestone page next week
  - Big images
    - Melissa: plenty of data
      - Several formats are in
      - Blocked on trying to deal with large JPEG images
- Screen-shots:
  - ROIs in web - DONE
  - Render region in web - DONE
- Chris: move trac.../omero to trac.../ome
  - New wiki start page this morning, see WikiStartOme. Feedback welcome but will go live today
  - Josh: Are we dropping the .uk from the website?
    - Chris: hadn't be planned but could. Certs are .org.uk though
- Chris: draft front page of trac
- Everyone: Go through old bugs and take ownership of 'unowned' tickets
  - All tickets have an owner by Thursday!
    - Still lots of 'old' tickets that need to be owned
- Brian: Move new TOC to plone site - PENDING
- Brian: email Andrew to send AJ to ome-xml - DONE
- Jean-Marie & Josh: Improve milestone page -- PENDING
- Everybody: plan by Thursday all tickets for sprint 6
- Donald & Colin: Meet before thursday to discuss importer/thumbnailing -- DONE
- Donald (for next Tuesday Feb. 15th) Presentation
  - This has been cancelled (was already discussed)
- For sprint (6): Review https://trac.openmicroscopy.org.uk/omero/report/9 and reduce tickets
  - almost 200, 40% planned so far
  - Will: more will come as well as we test
  - Josh: 48 days worth in the next sprint
- Webviewer and zooming detailed by Thursday! -- DONE
- Will: send email about Blitz connection and API unification meeting on Tuesday
  - Scheduled for Tuesday, 9:30
  - Different pages have different advice so users confused
  - Not sure what the java side of things looks like (JMB will update)
  - Will: what decision are we trying to make?
  - Do we need to keep in sync with Java?
  - Questions at meeting: Urgent is the python gateway review.
    - Not a method to method comparison but trying to reduce methods so its not a method explosion
    - Will: How similar to Java should python be - should be the key question?
      - JMB: Good question, ask on ticket and can review at meeting?
    - Chris: Also what do we do about the utility classes?
    - Will: Also getImage in python doesn't get pixels, need to go somewhere entirely different for that
      - This should be addressed
Sprint Update (20 mins)
- Josh: Things look good, few tickets over 2 days
- Josh: Also new query with times spent, we now have a downwards trend in our reporting!
- Josh: 15 hours not in progress (plus a few more 'in prep')
- Josh: Need to look at left+middle column and get those things down as well
- Will/Donald: looks like we put in as much as we finish towards the beginning
- Chris: investigation driven, so hard to judge
  - Toward the middle/end of sprint 7 with more concrete work
  - it should be more representative
- JMB: Still need to work on bugs, we have gotten better at picking bugs though
  - Not focusing enough on hudson green, missing test scenarios which need to be added
  - Will: We never got to real hudson green? No
    - 1. Josh: Can disable bad ones for now
    - 1. For all tests, disable,
    - 1. Each of us creates a bug for any tests they own which aren't working
    - 1. Fix bugs, then can turn back on
      2. For java ones: add group 'broken' to the annotation
      3. For python add an 'X' to the method name 'def XtestFoo' for example
    - Josh: Have to think how to get integration with BF working, but green first!
    - Chris: have a single story with all the disabled test bugs.
- JMB: Will start sprint 7
- JMB: Some tickets without owner. Remember if you move things back from active to pending, will lose owner!
  - Chris: You can also add owner now from whiteboard to fix this quickly
- JMB: Tickets older then 10 weeks (or so) need to be re-prioritized
- Chris: new husdon job testing tile performance (test_images_good)
- JMB: Are we moving validated files from QA to test_images_good?
  - Chris: workflow is not great, need to improve this.

Email and Forum Review - checked at 13:50 (5 mins)

Email -
- Jerome announced his OME meeting
- [ome-users] up to date
- [ome-devel] up to date
Forums - all answered or waiting user feedback
- Import Speed
  - Chris: Guys sent his logs, 50% of his time in thumbnail process.
    - Need to add option that defer thumbnail creation
    - Can show him how to improve things later
    - Chris wil reply to him about this
- Querying External XML
  - Josh: Waiting for user to review java docs

QA -
link

3201    new     jason@lifesc...     Web 4.2.3-DEV-      2011 02 05      -   If I search on some text, get ...   - PENDING, NEED DISCUSSION w/ J
3200    new     m.wasowicz@i...     Insight 4.2.2   2011 02 04  -   tagging images  java.lang.Exception: org.... - PENDING
3198    new     S.C.Moser@du...     Insight 4.2.1   2011 02 04  -   past settings   java.lang.Exception: org.... - PENDING
3197    new     josh@glencoe...     Importer 4.3.0-DEV  2011 02 03  a.pic   Sent from CLI   java.io.EOFException: Att... - PENDING
3193    new     ben@biobus.o...     Web 4.2.2-r871  2011 02 02  -   Is there a way to play time se...   - CLOSED
3180    new     N.Hegarat@su...     Insight 4.1.1   2011 01 29  -   I was doing a projection    java.lang.Exception: org.... - PENDING
3177    new     bhcho@cmu.ed...     Insight 4.2.1   2011 01 28  -   I was launching my Script. It ...   java.lang.Exception: java... - PENDING
3173    new     B.Broughton@...     Web 4.2.2-r871  2011 01 27  -   Having just fixed a Web on pro...   Traceback (most recent ca... - CLOSED
3204    [#4296] (http://trac.openmicroscopy.org.uk/omero/ticket/4296)
* This is a limitation, needs UI review

Any other business (<5 mins)
- Scott's Conference: Very different community, (design community).
  - Still working out how to handle complexed design problems
  - They liked to practical approach we have
  - Saw one presentation with an online system in Hawaii that was nice
  - Scott will send out the links to the team
  - One woman who will be here in March and will touch base with Scott
  - We seem very cutting edge compared to many! Grats!
  - JMB: Web tools seems like a good 'introduction to science' tool
- Chris: Away for a week next week Wednesday!

Action Items

JMB: Update Presentation page with new file
JMB & Josh: breakdown milestones page with more details + tickets
Scott: Follow up with Imperial re: importer testing
Chris: Update wiki start page !with 'beta3' paragraph
Chris: Update website so can get to trac from .org
Brian: Update the testing scenarios page (its badly out of date)
Everyone: disable tests and create bugs. See above & https://trac.openmicroscopy.org.uk/omero/ticket/4329
Chris: add ticket to "define and distribute workflow of moving tickets into test_images_good"
Jason: send out calendar link
Chris: ticket deferring thumbnail creation, also email user about this problem
Brian & Josh: CLI uploads to QA. Need to figure out why its not working for Josh!
Scott: Set up a page for the presentation information from Rome