2011-02-08 Tuesday Meeting
Attending: Ola, Brian, Carlos, Melissa, Josh, Curtis, Donald, Will, Jason, Jean-Marie, Chris, Colin
Agenda
Remember: Agenda must be complete (with estimated times) on the day before the meeting. Any additions after that must go at the bottom (AOCB)
Reminder: Meetings on Tuesdays are now at 2:30.
Accepting minutes from last meeting
Matters Arising (<10 mins)
- Jean-Marie & Scott: put together guidelines for the team ticket#4268
- Andrew: move big ticket review to the next Thursday
- Everyone: Feedback to Josh about subversion email
- Andrew: Push pending items
- Chris: Update download page for review
- Chris: remove blog and redirect to plone
- Everyone: go through bugs older than 6 months
- Will, Ola: add viewer/roi screenshots of big image work on tickets
- Brian: Send TOC doc page to everyone
- Andrew: Send AJ the OME-XML export tickets for future plans
- Jean-Marie: Andrew MW about auto-login config options, add ticket + patch for 4.2 ticket#4229 and ticket#4221
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(For Thursday)
- Review/update "4.3+ Priorities" i.e. list of "big things" for next sprint review
Sprint Update (20 mins)
Any other business (<5 mins)
- 24th meeting for new furniture at new office. Confirm who's going.
In Attendance
Ola, Brian, Carlos, Melissa, Josh, Curtis, Donald, Will, Jason, Jean-Marie, Chris, Colin
Notes
Accepting minutes from last meeting
Accepted
Matters Arising (<10 mins)
- Jean-Marie & Scott: put together guidelines for the team ticket#4268 -- Pending
- Andrew: move big ticket review to the next Thursday -- Pending
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Everyone: Feedback to Josh about subversion email -- Done
- Chris: frontpage? currently all OMERO. Needs to also be OME, BF, etc.
- Andrew: Push pending items -- DONE
- Chris: Update download page for review -- Pending
- Chris: remove blog and redirect to plone -- Pending
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Everyone: go through bugs older than 6 months
- Now belwow 50 (reduced 20)
- 4.3 has 12)
- JMB: Still are some without owner
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Will, Ola: add viewer/roi screenshots of big image work on tickets -- PENDING
- Haven't added and screenshots yet but should be done this week
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Brian: Send TOC doc page to everyone - DONE
- Want to have all docs together (user & dev)
- easier to maintain
- CSS should keep it usable/nice.
- Jean-Marie: scientist related closer to the screencasts
- Andrew: Send AJ the OME-XML export tickets for future plan -- PENDING
- Jean-Marie: Andrew MW about auto-login config options, add ticket + patch for 4.2 ticket#4229 and ticket#4221 -- DONE
4.3 Priorities Review (for Thursday)
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Jason: Today trying to figure out where we are in 4.3 and what is realistic to expect for release
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Milestone Page:
- Needs an outline ala 4.2
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Chris: These tickets are documentation, bf, big images. Lots of tasks not covered yet!
- Jason: Need to flesh this out
- Jason: May 15th/June1 release date is probably more realistic then April 1
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Calendar:
- Going to use the 'OME Fall 2010' calendar
- April: OMERO @ UEA is 6th to 8th, (3 more sprints before UEA meeting)
- June: Paris meeting mid-month
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Would be nice to do user testing before UEA
- How much time would we have for testing (internally and externally)
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Chris: Baseline testing of big images would require:
- Block-based Import (in-place)
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Which client will be ready soonist?
- JMB: Won't start on insight till next week.
- Ola: Bugs are there, but it works now. Needs to tie in with new rendering engine
- Chris: Can use EM and ASCB data for testing Brian: SVS? Chris: Not working currently
- JMB: 5 days of work in whiteboard for big images
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Chris: By sprint 6 end should be able to:
- test webclient up to 10k x 10k big images + panning
- no thumbs, 100% view only
- Some form of navigation
- JMB: Zooming is not going to be ready by Sprint 6
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First testing cycle right after sprint 6
- Will: Should we then ask for realistic datasets? Chris: have some already from ascb data
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Jason: focus of next two weeks?
- Jean-Marie: that's what most of the tickets are.
- Need to take time to break tickets down
- Realistic, but still "out of the hat"
- Dmac: Where does importer stand?
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Dmac: How are we representing data on server (ie: one big file)?
- Chris: Don't see us changing this before Sprint 6 end
- Dmac: Worried about working on thumbnails & how we cache them * In thumbnail context, recreating thumbnails for big images needs some thought (could kill server) * Chris: API for BF or OMERO should be the same for getting images * Still a problem for decompressing some formats (very slow) * Chris: Are we going to calculae thumbnail at import? Currently no plan to change this
- JMB: At end of Sprint 6, play on Friday, report bugs right away so we have tickets right away
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Sprint 7 then about reveal/fix big images bugs from sprint 6
- Solid viewing of Big Images by then
- Solid plan for multi-resolution, compression, thumbnailing speed, zooming, etc.
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Donald: if we are going to perform thumbnailing, then we're talking about scaling
- The way we seek through IO is an issue, etc.
- Framework for changing/updating them in place
- Can't think of a quick way to do this.
- Chris: discuss next Tuesday
- Jean-Marie: matter of finding the X stories which MUST be there for 4.3 delivery (and what comes after)
- This is a first shot. Compare permissions
- Curtis: Deep Zoom? We have had good success. CatMaid uses the same idea: hierarchical mipmaps.
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JMB: Spring 7 or 8 for code freeze, then evaluate
- Jason: Where do we do zoom planning? JMB: Wait for thumbnailing discussion
- Chris: Zooming probably not finished realistically by end of Sprint 7
- Look at 'Top-Level Open Tickets 4.3' link in trac, all of this needs to be cleaned up
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Milestone Page:
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Other topics (non big images)
- Malcolm and Jos coming on at end of Sprint 6
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Jason: Today trying to figure out where we are in 4.3 and what is realistic to expect for release
Presentations (Next Tuesday)
- Donald on big-images thumbnailing
Sprint Update (20 mins)
Any other business (<5 mins)
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24th meeting for new furniture at new office (28th). Confirm who's going. What we want.
- Furniture presentation is on the 28th @ 1 (Jason/Brian?/Chris? will attend)
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JMB: Had a FLIM meeting and need to get the new folks up to speed in David's group
- Need to get together on Monday with Pieta, JMB, Donald to organize
- Ola: on vacation march 21-26
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Web meetings (API Unificatin and Blitz Connection)
- Dates?: Tuesday morning API unification
- Will send out email for Blitz Connection
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Cell Classifier
- Will be at the UGM meeting in March, should talk to him about HDF ideas
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24th meeting for new furniture at new office (28th). Confirm who's going. What we want.
Action items
- Chris: move trac.../omero to trac.../ome
- Chris: draft front page of trac
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Everyone: Go through old bugs and take ownership of 'unowned' tickets
- All tickets have an owner by Thursday!
- See pending items
- Brian: Move new TOC to plone site
- Brian: email Andrew to send AJ to ome-xml
- ???: Improve milestone page
- Everybody: plan by Thursday all tickets for sprint 6
- Donald & Colin: Meet before thursday to discuss importer/thumbnailing
- Donald (for next Tuesday Feb. 15th) Presentation
- For sprint (6): Review https://trac.openmicroscopy.org.uk/omero/report/9 and reduce tickets
- Webviewer and zooming detailed by Thursday!
- Will: send email about Blitz connection and API unification meeting on Tuesday