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2011-01-20 Thursday Meeting

Attending: Brian, Scott, Andrew, Chris, Ola, Will, Melissa, Josh, Carlos, Donald, Colin, Jason, Jean-Marie

Jason has to teach at 2pm so we will meet on Thursday at 3pm this week only.

Agenda

Remember: Agenda must be complete (with estimated times) on the day before the meeting. Any additions after that must go at the bottom (AOCB)

  1. Accepting minutes from last meeting

  2. Matters Arising (<10 mins)

    • Everyone: evaluate git-flow for next Tuesday
    • Everyone: Review Scott's google docs, provide feedback on quick questions to ask users
    • Everyone: Large backlog of bugs. Look at them and clean up.
    • Everyone: please update google documentation spreadsheet with status of your pages
    • Andrew: document (under /team?) of how to mark "deprecated"
    • Carlos: looking at big images in Web
    • Chris: Add Scott to omero-team email
    • Chris & Josh: start migration to git
    • Josh: update docs on bridges
    • Josh: send out git announcment/feedback email
    • CellProfiler & Datasets
    • Nightshade upgrade: issue with ROI manipulation. Require client server upgrade
  3. Sprint Update (10 mins)

  4. Glencoe Update (10 mins)

  5. Email and Forum Review - checked at (5 mins)

    • Email -

      • Mark Woodbridge - Re: [ome-users] Timeout for server-side scripts
    • Forums -

    • QA -
      link

      ID  Status  User/email  Type    Created Selected file   Comment Error
      3156    new unknown Insight 4.2.2   2011 01 20  -   Trying to remove comment    java.lang.Exception: Abno...
      3155    new i.porter@lif... Insight 4.2.2   2011 01 19  -   deleting a subset of ROIs that...   java.lang.Exception: org....
      3154    new unknown Insight 4.2.2   2011 01 19  -   -   java.lang.Exception: org....
      3149    new ben@biobus.o... Insight 4.2.2   2011 01 17  -   Hi! I'm having trouble with t...    -
      3148    new tanjh@bii.a-... Insight 4.2.0   2011 01 17  -   -   java.lang.Exception: org....
      3147    new tanjh@bii.a-... Insight 4.2.0   2011 01 17  -   -   java.lang.Exception: org....
      3146    new unknown Insight 4.2.0   2011 01 17  -   -   java.lang.Exception: org....
      3145    new unknown Insight 4.2.0   2011 01 17  -   Exporting thumbnails    java.lang.Exception: java...
      3141    new ben@biobus.o... Web 4.2.2-r871  2011 01 14  -   Hi guys! This is Ben from the ...   -
      3080    new n.y.patel@du... QA  2010 12 16  -   -   -
      3074    new n.hattersley... Insight 4.2.1   2010 12 13  -   projecting files - was doing m...   java.lang.Exception: org....
      3072    new glyn.nelson@... Importer 4.2.2-r871 2010 12 13  ...i_composite_flatrainbowRGB.jpg   was a largish jpg that failed   java.lang.RuntimeExceptio...
      3071    new glyn.nelson@... Insight 4.2.2   2010 12 13  -   trying to change the colour on...   java.lang.Exception: org....
      
  6. Any other business (<5 mins)

Notes

  1. Minutes from last week

    • No comments
  2. Matters Arising (<10 mins)

    • Everyone: evaluate git-flow for next Tuesday
      • Git status
        • Now set up, fairly stable
        • BF needs to set up still
        • Trac setup to work with it
        • Hudson setup will take some time
        • Need to discuss what the build names will be - currently a SHA1
        • Chris: A few hickups on setup, but now resolved
          • Branch developer not working right now (missing IV files, blah blah blah)
      • Git training tomorrow morning?
        • 9:30 meeting approved
        • JMB: Perhaps gitflow as a framework
    • Everyone: Review Scott's google docs, provide feedback on quick questions to ask users
      • Jean-Marie: do you need more feedback? Using during session tomorrow?
      • Scott: made recommended changes.
      • Needs to confirm the policy for the QA feedback, which users to send info too?
        • Chris: Initially approach folks on the mailing list before the QA feedback users
    • Everyone: Large backlog of bugs. Look at them and clean up
      • Was 27 bugs reported, fixed a few, some added. Need to clear the backlog
      • JMB: Lets move some of them to the next sprint to get rid of the backlog
    • Everyone: please update google documentation spreadsheet with status of your pages
      • Moving along, some people done.
    • Andrew: document (under /team?) of how to mark "deprecated" (DONE)
    • Carlos: looking at big images in Web
      • Donald will update his stuff today
    • Chris: Add Scott to omero-team email (PENDING)
    • Chris & Josh: start migration to git (IN PROGRESS)
    • Josh: update docs on bridges (PENDING)
    • Josh: send out git announcment/feedback email (WAITING FOR FEEDBACK)
    • CellProfiler & Datasets
      • Josh will forward the related email to the team
      • Would be nice if we can send some test data to Adam F.
        • Is this something we want to do long term?
      • Donald: Has been talking to Adam since before December, but doesn't have data
        • Melissa: Did send some public data to user
      • JMB: Did we want to do a collaboration phonecall with CellProfiler and include Adam?
    • Nightshade upgrade: issue with ROI manipulation. Require client server upgrade
      • User pointed out a problem with ROIs that needs upgrade
      • JMB: Has 4.2.3-DEV working with fix, do we want to upgrade offically? or more testing?
        • Chris: We should be ok to just do it
        • Jason: Big help, a few users here stuck
        • Conclusion: Release to internal 'testing' users
  3. Sprint Update (10 mins)

    • round table
      • Chris: not much
      • Andrew:
      • Brian: docs
        • starting on summary page this week (~TOC)
        • Will: some of my pages are out of date but still have some relivance
        • Josh: marked some pages as 'core' others as 'wikiword' (low priority)
        • Brian: looking at something similar to the Django document 'launch' page
      • Ola: Still reviewing with Will on refactoring methods
      • Will: working on iQuery/Container service along with Ola
        • Do we need to alter the container service to change owners?
        • Ola: Maybe we could have some options to flag for different user details?
          • Josh: From the DB perspective low overhead to do that
        • waiting on walk through with Carlos re: selenium tests
          • when is next perfect moment?
          • 15 minutes after meeting
        • Jason: all of web work (#3649, #3797, #3299) done in this iteration?
          • Ola: don't think selenium tests (#3299) done
          • Carlos: These will be updated as needed
          • Carlos: issues with merge due to changes in method signatures
          • OmeroPy/src/omero/gateway/init.py shouldn't change without discussions among web team
          • Next stage is to move more generic methods in gateway/init.py
          • Ola: Refactoring should be done, selenium going, ...
        • Will: Does the wider team want a discussion about over arching issues?
          • Chris: discuss Thursday for next sprint?
      • Jean-Marie:
        • activity mostly testing and getting import in insight
        • planning a video after this iteration to show what's available
        • also an explanation of how Jean-Marie & Scott are working to get phases of work out into other groups
      • JM/Donald: processing
        • Jean-Marie: text files to embed in Java & Web client
        • Donald managed to get all of Processing hooked up
        • Not sure to embark on that at the moment
        • Test viewer only at the moment
      • Josh
        • Moved all tickets to correct spot in sprint
        • Plan is work on hudson so its green and lean
        • Can probably help out Colin for big image services or elsewhere
    • General points
      • JMB: We need to do something about our current bugs (almost 50) this sprint (either fix or move forward)
        • Also make sure everyone puts things into 'active' if you are currently working on a ticket
      • Jason: counting tickets v. counting hours
        • are we roughly 40%?
        • JMB: worse than 40/60 - some tickets longer then 1 day
          • Think about moving some of tickets to next sprint
        • Chris: Some things are in a story and are showing up but shouldn't - will have to remove them
          • Stories should be 'spritless'
        • Let's review after meeting
      • Jean-Marie:
        • Goal is to have enough detail in tickets so someone can see what functionality is coming from whiteboard
  4. Glencoe Update (10 mins)

  5. Email and Forum Review - checked at (5 mins)

    • Email -

      • Mark Woodbridge - Re: [ome-users] Timeout for server-side scripts
        • Chris/Josh: On top of this
    • Forums -

      • bug in insight?
        • JMB: problemato techniko with forums, will repond after meeting
      • beginners and baby-beginners
        • Will discuss this on Tuesday in more detail
        • Andrew responding
      • Re: Querying the external XML file (written by OMERO.editor)
        • Josh: in-progress
      • Re: Tagging ScreenPlateWell
        • JMB: Will check this work and we might have a bug/workflow issue.
          • May need some HCS invesitation and followup with Scott
          • May need more structure then a simple reply
          • Josh: We may need to change how thing are recorded (not just one way) to make the display in insight work better
          • JMB: Will follow up with forum once Scott + JMB have a plan
      • [Other Forum email re: BF batch conversions with Jergen]
        • Chris: Need a way to do batch level converts with BF convert
        • Melissa will get back to user re: this
        • Andrew: people need a clearer way to stuff XML into a TIFF and back out
          • Melissa: We have a gui tool for this, maybe command line, will check
          • Chris: This might be a good pattern to record in the BF wiki
          • Will: User is really just created ome-tiffs to get them into OMERO
          • Jason: Sounds similar to something another user wanted to do
        • Josh: Using ImageJ as batch processing tool?
    • QA -
      link

      • Andrew: there's a set of much older ones (August)
    • QA -
      link

      ID  Status  User/email  Type    Created Selected file   Comment Error
      3156    new unknown Insight 4.2.2   2011 01 20  -   Trying to remove comment    java.lang.Exception: Abno...
      3155    new i.porter@lif... Insight 4.2.2   2011 01 19  -   deleting a subset of ROIs that...   java.lang.Exception: org....
      3154    new unknown Insight 4.2.2   2011 01 19  -   -   java.lang.Exception: org....
      3149    new ben@biobus.o... Insight 4.2.2   2011 01 17  -   Hi! I'm having trouble with t...    -
      3148    new tanjh@bii.a-... Insight 4.2.0   2011 01 17  -   -   java.lang.Exception: org....
      3147    new tanjh@bii.a-... Insight 4.2.0   2011 01 17  -   -   java.lang.Exception: org....
      3146    new unknown Insight 4.2.0   2011 01 17  -   -   java.lang.Exception: org....
      3145    new unknown Insight 4.2.0   2011 01 17  -   Exporting thumbnails    java.lang.Exception: java...
      3141    new ben@biobus.o... Web 4.2.2-r871  2011 01 14  -   Hi guys! This is Ben from the ...   -
      3080    new n.y.patel@du... QA  2010 12 16  -   -   -
      3074    new n.hattersley... Insight 4.2.1   2010 12 13  -   projecting files - was doing m...   java.lang.Exception: org....
      3072    new glyn.nelson@... Importer 4.2.2-r871 2010 12 13  ...i_composite_flatrainbowRGB.jpg   was a largish jpg that failed   java.lang.RuntimeExceptio...
      3071    new glyn.nelson@... Insight 4.2.2   2010 12 13  -   trying to change the colour on...   java.lang.Exception: org....
      
  6. Other Business

    • Josh: Re processes, we need Scott to go over various command-line tools to develop a better workflow for these

Action Items

  • Josh: add ticket about build names
  • Chris: update developer pages on OME.org site for new GIT urls
  • Everyone: Go through the bug backlog (see report generated by Josh)
  • Chris: Add Scott to omero-team email
  • Donald: Get Big images work done (for Carlos?)
  • Josh: send PM from forums to nitpick.
  • Organize conference call during ImageJ hackathon. Invite Adam?
  • Chris: backup DB and upgrade nightshade
  • Everyone: After meeting, evaluate your tickets in sprint
  • Carlos: Get together with Will for Selenium tests
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