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2011-01-13 Thursday Meeting

Attending: Brian, Andrew, Scott, Will, Ola, Jean-Marie, Josh, Melissa, Carlos

Agenda

Remember: Agenda must be complete (with estimated times) on the day before the meeting. Any additions after that must go at the bottom (AOCB)

  1. Accepting minutes from last meeting

  2. Matters Arising (<10 mins)

    • Josh: Review community about Ice 3.4. Where do we stand?
    • Josh: Write to ome-devel about git
    • Brian: produce tickets for people to review docs
    • Scott: send link to conference.
    • Josh: Chgrp & designing new model object converters. Do we have time now?
    • Josh: Acquisition date nullability issue
    • Josh: search bridge for protocols
  3. Generating sprint # (45 mins)

    • Previous iterations review report.
  4. Email and Forum Review - checked at (5 mins)

    • Email -

      • [ome-users] OME to OMERO - Christopher Wood
    • Forums -

    • QA -
      link

      ID  Status  User/email  Type    Created Selected file   Comment Error
      3126    new hms-support@... Web 4.2.2-r871  2011 01 07  -   I was attempting to add _publi...   Traceback (most recent ca...
      3119    new p.pomorski@n... QA  2011 01 05  -   -   -
      3083    new peter.ciesie... Importer 4.2.0-DEV  2010 12 21  195C7_b_A000_6.5k.tif   I tried to import 66 tiff file...   java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOf...
      3080    new n.y.patel@du... QA  2010 12 16  -   -   -
      3074    new n.hattersley... Insight 4.2.1   2010 12 13  -   projecting files - was doing m...   java.lang.Exception: org....
      3073    new glyn.nelson@... Importer 4.2.2-r871 2010 12 13  ...i_composite_flatrainbowRGB.jpg   was a largish jpg that failed   java.lang.RuntimeExceptio...
      3072    new glyn.nelson@... Importer 4.2.2-r871 2010 12 13  ...i_composite_flatrainbowRGB.jpg   was a largish jpg that failed   java.lang.RuntimeExceptio...
      3071    new glyn.nelson@... Insight 4.2.2   2010 12 13  -   trying to change the colour on...   java.lang.Exception: org....
      3070    new unknown Importer 4.2.2-r871 2010 12 10  101007_EGFR_Ab_test_E07.pnl -   java.io.FileNotFoundExcep...
      3068    new glyn.nelson@... Importer 4.2.2-r871 2010 12 10  ...s_senSODcat_3h_L1_L9_tiled.tif   first time user, so may be my ...   omero.InternalException ...
      
  5. Any other business (<5 mins)

Notes

  1. Accepted minutes from last meeting

  2. Matters Arising (<10 mins)

    • Josh: Review community about Ice 3.4. Where do we stand? (PUSHING FORWARD TO TUES)
    • Josh: Write to ome-devel about git
      • Was waiting on feedback from team.
      • Josh will send soon.
    • Brian: produce tickets for people to review docs (DONE)
    • Scott: send link to conference. (DONE - should have alfresco presentation next Tuesday)
    • Josh: Chgrp & designing new model object converters. Do we have time now? (TABLED for next Tuesday)
      • Josh: Committed some work for export this morning
      • Josh: Should have some of the changegroup stuff done soon
      • Josh: Need to write a bunch of object wrappers and will need volunteers (needs discussion)
      • Ola: Is this just for objects or also for experimenters?
        • Josh: Just for objects right now, but eventually everything
    • Josh: Acquisition date nullability issue
      • Either we need a new field or to make this field nullable - needs discussion (TABLED for next week)
      • Jean-Marie: Related to editability of metadata. History of where values come from.
      • Jean-Marie: will there be other fields that they want tracked?
      • Josh: that's certainly the direction we want to take, but can we take intermediate steps without getting ourselves in trouble?
    • Josh: search bridge for protocols (TABLED for next week)
      • Needs scheduling
  3. Generating sprint

    • Jean-Marie & Josh: started evaluating the sprint
      • Various scripts to see how we're doing
      • Several things need to be improved on
    • Jean-Marie: naming sprints.
      • we're currently at sprint 23. but just started 4.3 milestone
      • everyone ok to re-start the count?
      • Jean-Marie: restarting number lets us see how far along we are in each release
    • Next sprints:
      • Jean-Marie: Lets add one extra sprint (one months worth of sprints) so we can plan further ahead
    • Andrew: why is it bad to carry tickets forward?
      • Josh: goal is to make estimates and then measure to see if it was good
    • Size of tickets should be between 0.25 and 2
      • Anything larger then 2 should probably be a story with multiple sub-tickets
    • Need to make sure we're not leaving things 'in progress' - this messes up metrics
      • We should be comparing 'in progress' time against our estimate
    • We need to get better at closing stories - open too long!
    • Ola: any way to say "working on this 50%"?
      • Josh: probably not. just move it back and forth from central column.
    • Jean-Marie: Need to make sure we have tickets related to each commit.
      • Don't commit something without a related ticket
      • Make tickets for non-code related tasks as well
    • QA: Need to make sure we track and complete these tasks quickly (within 2 days?)
      • Josh: We should clean up all bugs and do them as soon as possible when they come in
    • Tickets/tasks:
      • Web
        • Ola: refactoring of methods (#3649, #3650)
        • Will: also trying to do selenium testing (#3299)
      • Documentation
        • Brian: Assign existing story (#3592) + tickets to this sprint
      • Scott
        • investigations on-going
        • Jean-Marie: ok if ticket is in "waiting"
        • Josh: like "unavailable" portion of a iCal event
      • Andrew
        • XSLT Downgrade: One done, other is problematic
      • LOCI trac
        • Melissa: going through and updating tickets with sprints - will send us results
        • http://dev.loci.wisc.edu/trac/software/query?status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&order=priority&col=id&col=summary&col=status&col=type&col=priority&col=milestone&col=component&keywords=~sprint-1
      • Carlos
        • Working with Ola (reviewing code with her)
      • Big images Web?
        • No discussion
        • Josh: Perhaps need to discussion on Monday and get tickets into sprint
        • Carlos: API available?
          • Josh: some has been committed
          • Need to work in parallel
      • Jean-Marie: Hopefully we can use the data we collect in Agilo to see where we need help
  4. Email & Forums

    • Email -

      • [ome-users] OME to OMERO - Christopher Wood
        • Not possible generically.
        • Requires custom work.
        • Andrew: Does he have any SAs?
        • Josh: Regardless, still a lot of work
    • Forums -

    • QA -
      link

      ID  Status  User/email  Type    Created Selected file   Comment Error
      3126    new hms-support@... Web 4.2.2-r871  2011 01 07  -   I was attempting to add _publi...   Traceback (most recent ca...
      3119    new p.pomorski@n... QA  2011 01 05  -   -   -
      3083    new peter.ciesie... Importer 4.2.0-DEV  2010 12 21  195C7_b_A000_6.5k.tif   I tried to import 66 tiff file...   java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOf...
      3080    new n.y.patel@du... QA  2010 12 16  -   -   -
      3074    new n.hattersley... Insight 4.2.1   2010 12 13  -   projecting files - was doing m...   java.lang.Exception: org....
      3073    new glyn.nelson@... Importer 4.2.2-r871 2010 12 13  ...i_composite_flatrainbowRGB.jpg   was a largish jpg that failed   java.lang.RuntimeExceptio...
      3072    new glyn.nelson@... Importer 4.2.2-r871 2010 12 13  ...i_composite_flatrainbowRGB.jpg   was a largish jpg that failed   java.lang.RuntimeExceptio...
      3071    new glyn.nelson@... Insight 4.2.2   2010 12 13  -   trying to change the colour on...   java.lang.Exception: org....
      3070    new unknown Importer 4.2.2-r871 2010 12 10  101007_EGFR_Ab_test_E07.pnl -   java.io.FileNotFoundExcep...
      3068    new glyn.nelson@... Importer 4.2.2-r871 2010 12 10  ...s_senSODcat_3h_L1_L9_tiled.tif   first time user, so may be my ...   omero.InternalException ...
      
  5. AOCB

    • Nothing

Action Items

* Git review on Tuesday
* Josh: Review community about Ice 3.4. Where do we stand?
* Josh: Send email to ome-devel about git
* Josh (Discussion): Chgrp & designing new model object converters (See notes from last Thursday)
* Josh (Discussion): Acquisition date nullability issue (See notes from last Thursday)
* Josh (Discussion): search bridge for protocols (See notes from last Thursday)
* Jean-Marie: renumber sprints.
* Ola: create a QA account for Scott
* Review Tuesday trac policies and then write them on process list
* Web: discuss big images on Monday
* Josh: talk to Christopher Wood re: OME to OMERO
* Melissa/Will: follow up on import colors (see ticket #3668). Update forum with ticket number
* Josh: Update docs on bridging issue for querying external xml forum issue
* Brian: go through all import QAs
* Brian: For QA testing, if a fail happens should be added to test_images_qa

Actions carried forward to next Tuesday

GIT
* C) To find out our timeline...
    * How (and by when) do we decide if we are moving?
    * How (and by when) do we decide when we are moving?
    * When do we contact the lists? How long do they need to have?
    * Do we turn off svn and test first? When?
* D) To define how we work...
    * See <http://users.openmicroscopy.org.uk/~jmoore/git/workfows.html>
    * Do we allow/encourage/force use of github? gitweb? (i.e. how do we share with other developers?)
    * Do we have one central repository? Handle merges yourself.
    * Do we have an integration manager who handles merges?
    * Does something like "dictator & lieutenants" make sense (perhaps later)?
    * Do we use git-flow? Something more or less strict? Build/extend our own?
    * Do we need to buy any GUI tools?
    * Do we mirror git to svn? (Added after meeting)
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