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2011-01-06 Thursday Meeting

Attending: Colin, Chris, Carlos, Will, Jean-Marie, Donald, Ola, Andrew, Scott, Josh, Melissa, Jason

Agenda

Remember: Agenda must be complete (with estimated times) on the day before the meeting. Any additions after that must go at the bottom (AOCB)

  1. Accepting minutes from last meeting

  2. Matters Arising (<10 mins)

    • Some of these may have already been covered or be out of date!

    • Andrew: Create story, then tickets for backporting to 2003-FC, mapping enumerations, testing all attributes, CLI app, etc.

    • Andrew: Come up with a list of alll style sheets required for conversions. cF. softworx from OMX, etc.

    • Jason: See what can be done to update vendors?

    • Will is going to send out a message to the mailing list about the vendor ome-xml version problem

    • Chris & Josh: write to list about example 1 XML before Christmas

    • Chris add specification to multiple repositories

    • Everyone: in new year, discuss git

    • Everyone: in new year, discuss XSLTs, updaters, Ice 3.4 while looking at 4.3+ priorities

    • Meeting time changes suggested, everyone please respond!

    • ASCB Zapper: respond to the Zappee before Christmas

    • Tabled Items:

    • Will is going to reply to the email about this problem with customer -- TABLE

    • Jason: contact vendors about exporting previous versions. -- TABLE

    • Donald: Update outstanding FLIM tickets with status, move to future of sprint -- TABLE

    • Jean-Marie: #3581 move to Scott, move foward to new sprint -- TABLE

    • Jason: Print out papers for ASCB meeting -- TABLED

    • Handling Upgrades with users TABLED UNTIL NEW YEAR

  3. ASCB Summary

  4. 2011 Outlook (10 mins)

  5. OMERO.web Planning

  6. Sprint Status

  7. Email and Forum Review - checked at (5 mins)

    • Email - * OMERO in Action - Meeting - April 2011 (Jerome) * [ome-users] & [ome-devel] very slow LOCI bio-format exporter (Cail)

    • Forums -

      Re: 4.2.2 OMERO.web starts Using FastCGI but URL fails

      Re: getting the image IDs and dataset ID from Script

      Problem with activation

    • QA -
      link

      ID  Status  User/email  Type    Created Selected file   Comment Error
      3120    new i.porter@lif... Insight 4.2.2   2011 01 06  -   openend measurement java.lang.Exception: Abno...
      3119    new p.pomorski@n... QA  2011 01 05  -   -   -
      3115    new peter.ciesie... Importer 4.2.0-DEV  2010 12 21  195C7_b_A065_2.5k.tif   I tried to import 66 tiff file...   java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOf...
      3080    new n.y.patel@du... QA  2010 12 16  -   -   -
      3074    new n.hattersley... Insight 4.2.1   2010 12 13  -   projecting files - was doing m...   java.lang.Exception: org....
      3072    new glyn.nelson@... Importer 4.2.2-r871 2010 12 13  ...i_composite_flatrainbowRGB.jpg   was a largish jpg that failed   java.lang.RuntimeExceptio...
      3071    new glyn.nelson@... Insight 4.2.2   2010 12 13  -   trying to change the colour on...   java.lang.Exception: org....
      3070    new unknown Importer 4.2.2-r871 2010 12 10  101007_EGFR_Ab_test_E07.pnl -   java.io.FileNotFoundExcep...
      3068    new glyn.nelson@... Importer 4.2.2-r871 2010 12 10  ...s_senSODcat_3h_L1_L9_tiled.tif   first time user, so may be my ...   omero.InternalException ...
      2962    new todd.stokes@... Web 4.2.0-r757  2010 10 22  -   switching to another data owne...   Traceback (most recent ca...
      

Attending

  • Colin, Donald, Will, Ola, Andrew, Scott, Jean-Marie, Josh, Melissa, Jason

Notes

  1. Accepting minutes

    • DONE
  2. Matters arising

    • OME-XML downgrading
      • Andrew: Create story, then tickets for backporting to 2003-FC, mapping enumerations, testing all attributes, CLI app, etc. UNDONE
      • Andrew: Come up with a list of alll style sheets required for conversions. cF. softworx from OMX, etc. UNDONE
      • Jason: See what can be done to update vendors? UNDONE
      • Will was going to send out a message to the mailing list about the vendor ome-xml version problem UNDONE.
        • Jason: we'll need to provide libraries
        • Will: As soon as we release, they won't be able to open their exported files
        • On the forums, user said he'd try to hack it himself.
        • Will: usually, folks will only be interested in the planes
        • Andrew was to look into do a minimal conversion
        • Worked started: going down to 2008-02
        • Will: So we don't have a particular question to ask the ome-lists? No
      • Chris & Josh: write to list about example 1 XML before Christmas - DONE
        • Similar issue, waiting on feedback but we'll probably need to start implementing
      • Chris add specification to multiple repositories - DONE
        • No repositories are merged
        • Everything accessible from single trac
        • Jean-Marie: quite nice. We'll try it out.
      • Everyone: in new year, discuss git
        • Jason: why now?
        • Chris: biggest win about doing it now - makes management of various deployments easier
        • Also work on EMDB/etc. easier
        • Jean-Marie: need to discuss how we're going to use it.
        • Tuesday discussion by Josh
      • Everyone: in new year, discuss XSLTs, updaters, Ice 3.4 while looking at 4.3+ priorities
        • Ice: Tabled
        • updaters: Scott investigating, will add
      • Meeting time changes suggested, everyone please respond!
        • 1500 on Tuesdays?
        • JMB: Will he always attend?
      • ASCB Zapper: respond to the Zappee before Christmas DONE
      • Tabled Items:
        • Donald: Update outstanding FLIM tickets with status, move to future of sprint - DONE
        • Jean-Marie: #3581 move to Scott, move foward to new sprint - DONE
        • Jason: Print out papers for ASCB meeting - DONE
  3. ASCB Summary

    • Ola
      • ~50 people visited booth
      • mostly people who've never heard of OMERO
      • view people who had questions since they were thinking about installing OMERO (heard from someone)
      • organizing booth: laptops on different tables is better.
    • Will
      • A lot of people didn't know what we were doing.
      • Didn't know we wrote software, that it was free, that it was for microscopes
      • Free software, no consulting or hosting
      • "Collaborative"
    • Jean-Marie
      • ASCB feedback story
    • Jason
      • Fewer people at this meeting
      • Higher quality demos (Colin: 1/2 hour a piece)
      • Several times colleagues got sent back
      • Thanks to Andrew (could possibly have shown up a day later)
    • Chris
      • Do we need targeted materials?
      • Jason: need more to capture materials (unlike Paris, more like Atrium)
  4. 2011 Outlook - Jason (10 mins)

    • Grant "submitted"
      • Infrastructure focused
      • To be made available
      • Interview mid-April
    • OMERO must do work
      • jcb, ascb, emdb, distr. compute, ...
      • need to keep doing that; have to build applications to drive us (possibly in new directions)
      • scale of what people want to do is growing fast(er than ...)
      • key is going to be not developing apps in isolation
      • can't duplicate our work while still exploring
      • merging already started on the web front
      • has to keep going; has to come from the devs
    • Data
      • collectors bigger, robotics faster
      • FS will be key. For several types of data.
      • Privacy: "There will be no data repository" (concentrating data in one place)
      • Despite people saying that distributed data is a good thing
      • Causes all kinds of problems: data modelling, scaling, threading, net bandwidth
      • ever more hetereogeneity (NDIM, etc.)
      • Need more coherent client strategy
        • Have been using them to explore functionality
        • Earlier wasn't clear all that one could do
        • Java+Python is good.
        • But they should do different things
        • Jean-Marie: have lost sight of what's most suitable where
        • Jason: have allowed sloppiness in order to explore
      • We'll need to kill some code
      • More analysis. More representation of analytic results
      • Distributed systems.
    • Todos
      • Jean-Marie: do we need any better documentation, etc?
      • Jason: good to write documents against our current trac/requirements, etc.
      • Andrew: Brian in process of getting docs in order. Goal: end of Feb.
      • Jason: down the line, a central place to find, say, SPIM proposal would help
        • conceptual framework for where things are.
    • HCA
      • last major meeting for a while
  5. OMERO.web Planning

    • Meeting on Monday (weekly)
    • Middle Jan. for Gateway overview
    • Chris & Scott attending.
    • 11AM
  6. Sprint Status

    • Finishes next Thursday
    • Jean-Marie will review which tickets have been dragged on: need more people? not a priority?
  7. Email and Forum Review - checked at (5 mins)

    • Email
      • OMERO in Action - Meeting - April 2011 (Jerome)
        • 1 day of talks
        • 2 days of user training (demos/classroom work)
        • What representation from us?
      • [ome-users] & [ome-devel] very slow LOCI bio-format exporter (Cail)
        • Melissa will deal with it.
      • Forums -
        • Re: 4.2.2 OMERO.web starts Using FastCGI but URL fails
          • Ola will look at it.
        • Re: getting the image IDs and dataset ID from Script
          • Jean-Marie will answer it.
        • Problem with activation
          • Spam.
      • QA
        • 3120 new i.porter@lif... Insight 4.2.2 2011 01 06 - openend measurement java.lang.Exception: Abno...
        • 3119 new p.pomorski@n... QA 2011 01 05 - - -
        • 3115 new peter.ciesie... Importer 4.2.0-DEV 2010 12 21 195C7_b_A065_2.5k.tif I tried to import 66 tiff file... java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOf...
          • Needs to upgrade clients
        • 3080 new n.y.patel@du... QA 2010 12 16 - - -
        • 3074 new n.hattersley... Insight 4.2.1 2010 12 13 - projecting files - was doing m... java.lang.Exception: org....
        • 3072 new glyn.nelson@... Importer 4.2.2-r871 2010 12 13 ...i_composite_flatrainbowRGB.jpg was a largish jpg that failed java.lang.RuntimeExceptio...
        • 3071 new glyn.nelson@... Insight 4.2.2 2010 12 13 - trying to change the colour on... java.lang.Exception: org....
        • 3070 new unknown Importer 4.2.2-r871 2010 12 10 101007_EGFR_Ab_test_E07.pnl - java.io.FileNotFoundExcep...
        • 3068 new glyn.nelson@... Importer 4.2.2-r871 2010 12 10 ...s_senSODcat_3h_L1_L9_tiled.tif first time user, so may be my ... omero.InternalException ...
        • 2962 new todd.stokes@... Web 4.2.0-r757 2010 10 22 - switching to another data owne... Traceback (most recent ca...
          • Old.
  8. Any other business (<5 mins)

    • Hudson
      • Josh: Everyone, take notice of the OMERO--components job. That's where most things are happening now.

Actions

  1. Andrew: create tickets for ome-xml downgrading & binary-only ome-xml, CC Jason

  2. Jason: contact vendors about what use cases are most important for downgrading XML schemes (with story numbers)

  3. Josh: send out an email on testing git

  4. Plan meeting for Ice 3.4 discussion

  5. Will : Create story for ASCB feedback for next year

  6. Jean-Marie: Check/update FAQ page entry on Java 1.6 instability

  7. Proposed change of meeting time

  8. Any other business (<5 mins)

    • Tues mtg times?
    • Hudson

Notes

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