2010-10-05 Tuesday Meeting
Attending: Jason, Brian, Andrew, Chris, Jean-Marie, Melissa, Josh, Ola, Colin, Will
Agenda
Remember: Agenda must be complete (with estimated times) on the day before the meeting. Any additions after that must go at the bottom (AOCB)
Accepting minutes from last meeting
Matters Arising (<10 mins)
- Jason: Review Will's email and send feedback
- Jason: Set up a website usability ticket for tasks/feedback
- Everyone: Discuss the BF/C++ issue (need time for this)
- Jason: Write Michael H. so Curtis can help him out
- Jason: Write to Zeiss
- Andrew: Follow up Jason's Zeiss conversation with specifics
- Andrew: book hotels for ASCB - done
- Andrew: Pass on payment instructions to Kevin - done
- Chris upgrade agilo
Report from meetings we have attended + Q&A (max 15 mins each meeting)
- Chris, Josh, Jean-Marie
Any other business (<5 mins)
Notes
Minutes / Matters Arising
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Jason and Will are working together on the EMBD and its coming along nicely
- Still having some caching issues which Will is looking into
- Jason will followup with Janet Thorton/Gerard and pass things around internally
- Jason did not yet create a web usability ticket
- Jason wrote to Michael H, waiting for reply
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Jason/Andrew/Melissa wrote to Zeiss, waiting for reply
- Encouraged the use of the forums for technical discussions
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Chris: re. C++, made good progress to get windows/hudson box going.
- Hopefully working end of today
- Jason: responded to Catarina on forums
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Chris: Agilo upgrade is nice but some issues with caching javascript
- Email addresses are still showing up in the clear!
- Ola: haven't heard anything back from the google groups
- Hold off using omero-team@...
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Jason and Will are working together on the EMBD and its coming along nicely
Sprint/Testing
- Will recently
- Need everyone to evaluate the full suite and see where we are
- Chris: need to get gretzky up to the latest version (David is using it)
- FLIM meeting tomorrow; still getting more requirements
- Eventually, heatmap will be the most appropriate output
- Pieta has her script working on the cluster (gone from 5 hrs -> 5 min!)
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Chris: How easy is it to register processes in the cluster?
- Josh: Can register as many as you like but no control over scheduling
- Chris: And no round robin-ing? Josh: Correct
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Chris: Ideally you don't want a processor on the omero node
- Josh: Maybe a can do a few quick fixes here
- Josh: We may want to suggest users to set up 'exclusive' processors
- Jean-Marie: We now have feedback/tickets for some QA, if you find anything check these first
BII/Pittsburgh
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Josh:
*'Takehome' was getting into analysis ASAP.
- 'Twist' was that analysis/publication were intertwined (Results/Analysis/Scripts/Heatmaps)
- 'Fallout' is that some groups are starting to give us bugs for this functionality
- Otherwise, meeting went well
- As soons as Big Images gets started, we should also look at analysis tickets
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Jason: Based on observations, we still need to simplify things!
- Josh: Definitely, takes folks a few times for the setup to make sense
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Josh:
*'Takehome' was getting into analysis ASAP.
MIFOBIO/Biarritz
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Jason:
- Big meeting in France! Lots of people
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Did talk and demo.
- Went well but we still need to work on doing on-site demos!
- Put together a 'road kit'?
- Demo'd 'in anger' by users and didn't go down! Well done!
- Liked what they saw, now want it 'really working'
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Jean-Marie:
- Labs work with each other and are interconnected, must provide for entire collaboration
- Way labs work with their data: incl. shared common pots (sharing containers), tabular annotations
- Folks wanted to see ImageJ plugin improvements (better bridging both ways)
- Andrew: Zeiss was viewing their OME-XML files in Fiji so definitely a point of entry
- Chris: Fiji is definitely a point of entry around Germany
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Chris:
- Had a talk with Leica folks re: leica matrix/ome-tiff
- We will need to rationalize 'sharing containers' (datasets/projects/etc) between users
- France is much more project driven vs. group driven
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Jason:
NoSQL/Frankfurt
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Chris:
- Take home message: No silver bullets in the NoSQL space. Need to evaluate everything
- MongoDB guys were not there, esp. to discuss the need for replicates for durability
- Targetted towards very big deploys.
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Josh:
- NoSQL stores are fantastically useful, but require some major rework and (meta)data dup.
- Think caching/indexing/views!
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Jason:
- These sorts of 'slightly off topic' meetings are good! We should do more to see what's out there
- Analyzing data with OMERO should be easier.
- Kind of data people are analysis has jumped, and will continue to. Everything is getting more complexed!
- Need to think about things like server-generated client menus for scripting, etc., and we're getting there!
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Chris:
4.2.1 Testing/Deploying
- Everyone should start looking at these now
- Jean-Marie: Running out of time to examing 'Big Stories' and ticketting new tasks. Need to do this on Thursday!
- Nightshade: 1) "deleting is better". 2) Swedlow Lab wants to be able to share data in a group
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What happens to their data when someone leaves a group? Josh: There is a script for that!
- Jason: We need a 'former lab members' group on Nightshade for old users
- Josh: We may need an index on the group ID column (plane info table) to improve performance
- Chris: Nightshade so big now, takes a long time to test these sorts of changes
Action Items
* Jason: Followup with Janet Thorton/Gerard and
* Jason: pass things around internally for review
* Jason: create website usability ticket
* Someone: look into getting hubs as standard kit for demos, also script of group creation, etc.
* Jason: Send Chris the groups for Swedlow Lab sharing
* Chris: will update QA build for everyone