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2010-09-30 Thursday Meeting

In Attendance: Brian, Andrew, Chris, Jason, Jean-Marie, Ola, Josh, Melissa, Colin, Curtis, Will

In attendance: Brian, Andrew, Chris, Jason, Jean-Marie, Ola, Josh, Melissa, Colin, Curtis, Will

  1. Email and Forum Review - checked at (5 mins)

    • Email - none

    • Forums -

    • QA -
      link

      ID  Status  User/email  Type    Created Selected file   Comment Error
      2778    new brandon.scot... Importer 4.2.0  2010 09 24  CexbyCCell1.ome.tif -   java.lang.RuntimeExceptio...
      2748    new ajdmelvin@du... Importer 4.2.0-DEV  2010 09 22  1_0h_01_R3D_D3D.dv  It's still doing it chris. ra...    java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOf...
      2747    new k.j.walker@d... Insight 4.2.0   2010 09 22  -   opening a second image window....   java.lang.Exception: org....
      2746    new jay_copeland... Importer 4.2.1-DEV  2010 09 21  plate1.HTD  This is the first attempt at u...   Ice.ObjectNotExistExcepti...
      2745    new markov@ioc.e... Importer 4.2.0-r757 2010 09 21  image2.ome.tif  -   java.lang.NullPointerExce...
      2691    new unknown Importer 4.2.0-DEV  2010 09 07  A8_fish2_headareazoom3.lsm  Data import error   java.lang.IllegalArgument...
      2690    new unknown Importer 4.2.0-DEV  2010 09 07  A8_fish2_headareazoom2.lsm  Data import error   java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOf...
      2685    new team-sysadmi... Insight 4.2.0   2010 09 02  -   I was opening a dataset consis...   java.lang.Exception: org....
      

Notes

  1. Accepting Minutes / Matters arising

    • Jean-Marie / Josh: not worrying about IContainer at the moment
    • Jason: email sent with the data
    • Windows Test Box: Chris is going to set up VMs.
      • Jean-Marie: Since some things don't work over a VM (such as openGL) should we use a real machine?
      • Josh: Windows builds are getting some weird errors (all windows tests failing)
      • Jason: Need both windows testing and working windows tests working
      • Chris': Windows server for test runs downstairs plus VMs for everyone to do windows testing
      • Everyone seems ok with this option for now
    • Will's EMDB Tickets
      • All tickets are now in unscheduled (see story #2603)
        • Had a meeting with Ingvar to tidy up a few things
        • Non-essnetual things still left
        • Josh: Can we move this story to unscheduled? Yes. (DONE)
      • Jason will re-read Will's email and reply accordingly
    • Forum Use:
      • Andrew: still having problems (notifications don't work!)
        • Don't save your credentials and auto-login (its broken). Log in every time!
      • Chris: Still need to fix a few things here
    • Brian: checked QA and created tickets
  2. Project status

    • Increasing usage
    • Zeiss discussing support of file formats on release
    • Problem is now we're successful so higher demands
    • Jason has given lots of feedback on how we're presenting (we need to do much better on this)
      • OME-XML and Bio-formats sight needs to be better
    • Grant goes in end of year
    • Kevin & Jason visiting NSF soon
    • integration with ImageJ
    • integration with other efforts
    • Curtis
      • Websites: is there a concrete plan? tasks? goals?
        • Jason: not immediate. Let's integrate it into the way we work.
        • In the next few months, slot 2-3 people to plan the tickets for website work.
        • Perhaps we need a WWW usability ticket like the code usability one (#2818)
        • It's the finding stuff that's key.
  3. BioFormats / C++

    • We need more data on what he tried
    • Chris: if we had this always building on our system we could make sure this working correctly
    • Curtis: Was going to get this working on our system
    • Curtis: Need to discuss this in detail with the team. Have a nice wrapper for BF + dependants
    • Curtis: Would be nice if we compiled this for them so they can just download
    • Chris: Mac OSX builds as well? Can we get a dedicated machine for this?
    • Jason: Can we coordinate with Michael H. and work out these issues?
    • OME-HDF with help / funding; currently not on the roadmap
  4. SPIM

    • Andrew: In the next two weeks we need to respond to Zeiss/Gunther with proposal
    • Jean-Marie: When is it in the Schema?
      • Andrew: When the omero db changes! (Notionally Sept.)
      • Chris: Perhaps a SPIM preview schema release?
      • Andrew: XML annotation seems like a good fit for this (as an interm solution at least)
      • Jason: currently instrument == "Zeiss X"
        • but in SPIM community, everyone is building their own scope
        • so we're unfolding that component into all of its parts
        • "SPIM microscope" doesn't exist. All with substantially different light paths
        • Considering how hard the previous efforts were (and that they're still incomplete),
        • it's asking a huge amount to have a properly typed system
    • Jason: Another option is to go to vendor developers with questions (not proj. mgrs)
      • Write to Gunther etc.
      • Can we handle this as a community conversation
  5. ImageJ Distributed Computing

    • Curtis: Seems that it would take less time to get OMERO working for this
    • But there will always be people who don't want to install things.
    • Josh: Lots of repeat effort going into this, we should help unify it
    • Curtis: will speak up if any large development starts up in that direction
  6. Sprint

    • Delete should be 'code complete'
    • Still 34 tickets in the queue (some VM related)
    • Are we going to expose VM stuff in 4.2.1?
      • Will touch base with Donald tomorrow to see where we are at for release
      • Josh: Most of this work just needs to move to hudson
      • Chris: plan for the rest of the week
    • Summary: release tasks, documentation tasks, and test tasks
      • Jean-Marie: Need to get a full cycle of testing (esp. delete)
    • Ola: python tests are failing on tables
      • Josh: caused by change to constructor recently
      • Chris will look at those during testing
    • Should be ready for testing on Monday
    • Target release candidate for Nightshade after that (end of next week?)
    • Initial delete restricted to Admin/Root/Owner - client needs to be synced to this philosphy
    • Next phase should be big image - a few stories here. Need a discussion for this.
      • Tuesday?
        • That's the report from the conferences. NoSQL, MIFIBIO, BII2010
        • Keep reports short, then discuss this
    • Jean-Marie will create sprints 17 after the meeting
  7. ASCB

    • List of attending is in place
    • Andrew: needs to book hotels for those going
    • One booth for OME one for Glencoe (2 scientist badges)
    • Jason sending out payments today
    • Andrew will send payment instructions to Kevin
    • Who wants to do the setup?
      • Jason/Brian in a double room booked one day early, can work out details later
      • Colin happy to come out early
  8. Forum/QA Posts

    • QA:

         ID  Status  User/email  Type    Created Selected file   Comment Error
      2778    new brandon.scot... Importer 4.2.0  2010 09 24  CexbyCCell1.ome.tif -   java.lang.RuntimeExceptio...
      2748    (close) new ajdmelvin@du... Importer 4.2.0-DEV  2010 09 22  1_0h_01_R3D_D3D.dv  It's still doing it chris. ra...    java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOf...
      2747    new k.j.walker@d... Insight 4.2.0   2010 09 22  -   opening a second image window....   java.lang.Exception: org....
      2746    (solved) new    jay_copeland... Importer 4.2.1-DEV  2010 09 21  plate1.HTD  This is the first attempt at u...   Ice.ObjectNotExistExcepti...
      2745    new markov@ioc.e... Importer 4.2.0-r757 2010 09 21  image2.ome.tif  -   java.lang.NullPointerExce...
      2691    (unkwn) new unknown Importer 4.2.0-DEV  2010 09 07  A8_fish2_headareazoom3.lsm  Data import error   java.lang.IllegalArgument...
      2690    (unknw) new unknown Importer 4.2.0-DEV  2010 09 07  A8_fish2_headareazoom2.lsm  Data import error   java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOf...
      2685    new team-sysadmi... Insight 4.2.0   2010 09 02  -   I was opening a dataset consis...   java.lang.Exception: org....
      

Action Items

* Jason: Review Will's email and send feedback
* Jason: Set up a website usability ticket for tasks/feedback
* Everyone: Discuss the BF/C++ issue (need time for this)
* Jason: Write Michael H. so Curtis can help him out
* Jason: Write to Zeiss
* Andrew: Follow up Jason's Zeiss conversation with specifics
* Andrew: book hotels for ASCB
* Andrew: Pass on payment instructions to Kevin
* Chris upgrade agilo
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