2010-04-13 Tuesday Meeting
Attending: Brian, Ola, Chris, Donald, Jean-Marie, Curtis, Melissa, Colin, Carlos, Josh, Scott, Andrew
Agenda
Remember: Agenda must be complete (with estimated times) on the day before the meeting. Any additions after that must go at the bottom (AOCB)
Accepting minutes from last meeting
Matters Arising (<10 mins)
- Jean-Marie: Please post all presentations to the plone
- Ola/Carlos/Curtis: Add email details to Shoola Trac
- Josh/Chris: Do a diff of the DSL / compile and see what classes break (Do Friday)
- Andrew: give us a visual summery of 'image down' model after changes (filter, etc)
- Andrew: Get a poster together for Donald's talk on the 21st
- Everyone: Review Jason's email with preliminary Paris meeting agenda
- Everyone: Re-subscribe to the forums to receive email notifications
- Everyone: move tickets that can't be done by 4.2 to 'future' (MUST DO BY NEXT THURSDAY)
Fiji: Curtis's presentation (45 mins)
AOCB (<5 mins) # Notes #
Minutes: accepted
Matters arising
- Chris: Curtis' password not working (Carlos also)
- DSL: josh and chris will work on model this week
- Paris: agenda ok? Nothing special at the moment
- Jean-Marie: create a report on trac for Thursday
- All: trying to close the permissions/ssl chapters
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Group drop-down
- Jean-Marie: we still need to implement the drop-down in web
- Will: not critical, nice short-cut
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Hudson/Chris
- 2 new nodes on hudson, keep an eye out for something weird
- Jean-Marie: cleaning up javadoc
Presentation/Curtis: who/what is fiji
- LOCI philosophy is to be as interoperable as possible
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What's the difference between Fiji and ImageJ2?
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ImageJ2:
- goal is to integrate: imageJ, Fiji, visbio, slim plotter, TRI2, FARSIGHT, ITK, CellProfilers
- core image processing library for Fiji
- BSD licensing
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Fiji:
- is a bundle of imageJ with some plugins/marcos/scripts included
- Focus on segemtation & registration
- additional tools to facility scripting, tutorial maker, updating
- goal: "easy way to develop novel algorithms"
- fully GPL
- scripting with 7 languages (Jython, Java, Groovy, etc).
- tutorial maker. google for: imagej+fiji
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ImageJ2:
- imglib as data model for imagej, need to add metadata/introspection
- itk/improving wrapitk and its templates
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Q: (Andrew) ImageJ2 splits gui & core...?
- A: architectural separation, yes. But pointing most people at Fiji (more plugins)
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Q: (Jason) Where should OME be paying attention/adopting/etc.?
- A: lots of overlap (and reuse)
- Lot of display stuff. Insight could leverage use that
- Concerned: seems impossible to always take advantage of each other's work
- There's the server- v. client- rendering issue
- Then there's the client- v. server- scripting issue
- We'll make them interoperable; but we have to keep re-assessing
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Looking now v. waiting
- Will mature, but don't want to do things in parallel
- Read over the ImageJ blog presentation
- Curtis will send out a more technical list
- Reading through the trac tickets
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Perhaps Fiji can present at Paris
- Some sort of 'hackathon'/gathering event with Fiji/OMERO would be valuable
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Q: (Donald) What are the next steps? Overlaps, etc.
- Fiji has no aims page. Focused on automated segementation & registration
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We should probably align our ROI models in anticiptation of cooperation
- ImageJ ROI model has some deficiencies, would like to adopt the OMERO model
- OMERO model needs some changes to meet multi-dimensionality requirements for ImageJ
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Q: timeline for the AWT refactoring? (Chris)
- ~ a year.
# Action Items # - Chris: See why Curtis' & Carlos' passwords aren't working - Curtis: Send out a techincal list of ImageJ/Fiji functionality that could be useful for OMERO - Everyone: Be ready for Thursday! Go through and move tickets to future if not doable in the next month
# Needed Tickets #