2010-03-23 Tuesday Meeting
In Attendance: Brian, Will, Ola, Jean-Marie, Chris, Andrew, Scott, Jason, Chris, Colin, Carlos, Josh
Agenda
Remember: Agenda must be complete (with estimated times) on the day before the meeting. Any additions after that must go at the bottom (AOCB)
Accepting minutes from last meeting
Matters Arising (<5 mins)
Web Review: Ola's presentation (45 mins)
AOCB (<5 mins)
Notes
Last week meetings
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Email/forums
- var/log: @Need to modify the page
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Email/forums
Matters arising
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Thumbnailing issues and other bugs
- we've defined QA builds
- but we haven't defined set testing regiment
- Josh: would also like to get more (green!) automatic tests going!
- suggestion: after meeting, mark QA and upgrade mage
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Jason: is this something we need to all do?
- Jean-Marie: other people have other workflows
- @Jason will go over about pages tomorrow night and sends updated text
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re: Two tracs
- Everyone should take a look at what others are working on
- Flip-side: update your tickets if a ticket will be taking time
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Best practice: add info to tickets
- even along the lines of "not feeling well, will take longer"
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Scott: any problems with agilo?
- Jean-Marie: easy to see what other people have planned
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Thumbnailing issues and other bugs
Ola presentation
- Now more insight-like with 3 panels
- Two different views of the middle data panel (thumbnail and table view)
- default view: 2 panel (left+center) till dataset clicked (then 3 panels)
- metadata panel shows: full image preview, comments, global metadata, aquisition data, tags, annotations (each on separate tabs)
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Will: add tags, comments, attachments to the metadata panel
- All creation goes to another tab "Create tag..."
- Chris: possibly use a popup ajax box for creation (gather all of creation on one tab perhaps?)
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Should optimize for reads (though we need data)
- Andrew: key things in read only form on preview or metadata pane
- If not all in one place, it's difficult to compare, e.g., tags & comments
- Brian: collapsible sections rather than tabs?
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Jason: less space for creation is right
- but opening something new for creation might not be
- minimizing the number of new pages?
- being able to see the thumbnail (preview) when editing is nice
- @need research on this; see people using it
- @Discuss: What's the balance between comments and descriptions? (different in clients)
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Multi-selection: can select via mouse or keyboard
- Toolbar shows up once you have anything selected
- enables multi-action editing
- Will: toolbar in the right-hand panel? Ola: don't know
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Chris: different from insight workflow
- for cut-n-copy probably won't be looking at right-panel
- would be nice if we could multi-select and edit fields for all selected in the right hand panel * Eg: Multi-annotating (say 3 stars) should appear (on the right hand panel)
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Basket: table format, multi-select enabled
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Jean-Marie: Why do you add to the basket for some actions? (Eg: sharing)
- Ola: Because basket items may come from multiple containers
- Jason: You may want to do all sorts of things to a basket set, (create new dataset, add to dataset, etc)
- Chris: images in a basket loose context (where did they come from?)
- Will: only one basket? Why not just use a share?
- Chris: not needing basket if selection in left and middle panels are synchronized?
- Andrew: hierarchy multi-selection? Ola: not implemented yet (requirement?)
- Ola: what's the difference between the clipboard and the basket
- Will/Chris: currently selection can't be across datasets
- Will: in insight, go through and add tag to each * Jason: and that's a PITA
- Ola: Right now we can't do left panel multi-select so we need the basket
- Jason: insight workflow = i know what i want to do, i select and then i tag * problem (standard for filebrowser): as soon as i select elewhere, that selection goes elsewhere * basket is different. it allows me to come back later.
- Josh: Maybe the basket should be like an amazon wish list, can be shared, saved, etc. * This could be a part of the overall share UI * Possibly have a temporary (in-memory) share which can be saved on exiting
- Chris: if we keep it, we have to add it insight
- "Long-term clipboard" ?
- Searching: Currently only allows you to annotate found objects
- History: Calendar on left hand side. Only allows annotation.
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Web Admin:
- My Account Page: Owners of a group can manage them here
- Will: Link to WebAdmin from WebClient? Ola: Yes.
- Andrew: Group Permissions - are there warning messages on moving from collaborate to public? Ola: @Not yet
- New Groups: Can now multi-select more the one owner
- Will: Can we increase the selection color in the admin web client? Ola: Yes
- Add Scientist: New way of adding group, can now pick one or more groups * Jean-Marie: prefer that the first chosen group is the "default" group * Will: would be nice if we could select all groups to add user to, then pick from that list which is the default * Chris: add multi-groups to a real html table with radio buttons so user can pick one as the default group
- Jason: compare the selection of the default printer on the mac
- Jason: overall this is great
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Client Annotation icons (in left hand panel):
- This icon is on every object now and looses its meaning, needs to be looked at.
- Perhaps strip out the users own annotations. Would reduce the number of images which have the symbol?
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Share UI in Insight?
- Jean-Marie: doubtful for the release
- Would need to prioritize for the release.
- Chris: loses some of its meaning with permissions
- Ola: getting link to data is as important as share? * Change share focus to public access? (like a blog)
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Jean-Marie: Why do you add to the basket for some actions? (Eg: sharing)
Action Items:
- Chris: Need to modify the var/log page
- Everyone: we need to do a sweep to test permsisions changes
- Jason: remember to go over the about pages tomorrow night for Andrew
- Everyone: need to explore and decide on how to work with web-client basket