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2010-02-18 Thursday Meeting

In Attendance: Brian, Josh, Will, Jason, Chris, Andrew, Ola, Carlos, Melissa, Colin

Agenda

Remember: Agenda must be complete (with estimated times) on the day before the meeting. Any additions after that must go at the bottom (AOCB)

  1. Accepting minutes from last meeting

  2. Matters Arising (<10 mins)

    • Brian: Contact Marc Woodbridge about ND2 internationalization issues
    • Andrew: Start using what Curtis has put in place for Stats
    • Donald: present next Tuesday
    • Josh, Carlos, Ola: Provide more docs on getting started with Metadata Harvesting
    • Andrew: Provide more SA examples
    • Jason: Send Agile24 letter about open source project
    • Scott and Josh: Put up a summary for the survey
    • Andrew: List more key examples on the work plan
    • Jean-Marie: expose the SPW final decision information (from ticket) to Bernard when its ready
    • Everyone: update your actual time taken for ticket items in work plan
    • Andrew, Chris, Jason - ASCB Email
    • Andrew & Jason - About pages
    • All: ROI use cases
    • Jason: Domain registration
    • All: Update estimates by EOF on Wednesday on your work plans
    • All: Decide who goes to meetings by Thursday (Zurich)
  3. Generating sprint

    • Iteration graffle
    • Estimates
  4. Email and Forum Review - checked at 11am today (5 mins)

    • Email - From: Caitlin Sticco Subject: Harvesting metadata from Omero with OAI-PMH (2nd week)
    • Forums - Up to date, waiting on more information (logs, samples) from users
  5. AOCB (<5 mins)

    • New questions for FAQ - how will we review the questions pulled from the mail lists here

Notes

  • Arising (14:00-14:19)

    • Mark Woodbridge & ND2: Brian contacted. No response yet.
      • Chris: Related to issue on forum. Importing massive XML.
      • Do we want to release a new importer with bioformats?
      • ~3 things to fix.
      • @Chris sends email to nitpick about patch release
    • Metadata harvesting
      • Ola: sent draft, but Carlos unhappy with extlib
      • Carlos: things that can bite people
      • Ola: one page for
      • @Ola, Josh, and Carlos will discuss
    • Jason hasn't sent agilo letter, but registration done (we think)
      • Chris working on getting certificates
    • Process-summary
      • Anyone look at it?
      • No, but that should be ok.
      • Linked from last weeks minutes
    • ASCB email went out
    • About pages ticket has been updated.
    • Storage
      • use cases on the RoiStorage page
      • forum for getting feedback, everyone add notes concurrently
      • trac page is authoritative (links to tickets)
    • Estimates/work plan updates
      • Andrew: some of my items have tickets but not on roadmap
    • Zuerich: can't go
  • Sprint (14:20-

    • Were hoping to use agilo, but that will have to wait
    • Practices (go through each of the workplan pages)
      • What are the things that are good to do?
      • https://trac.openmicroscopy.org.uk/omero/wiki/WorkPlan/Permissions
      • Example, quite verbose.
      • Useful?
      • Easier with a tool?
      • Also, https://skyking.microscopy.wisc.edu/trac/java/wiki/BioFormatsCleanup
      • Less detail, but similar.
      • Ola: more tickets per commit?
      • Ola: percent remaining
      • Ola: with multiple tracs, have to handle tickets carefully
      • Andrew: if there's a ticket not linked off the roadmap (not 4.2), where do estimates go?
        • Adding extra row to TaskAllocations?
        • If you're doing the work, it's 4.2 and should be put on the roadmap (ie: Doesn't matter if something is 'linked' to code, if its happening 'before' a release, it should be included in that release cycle on the trac).
    • Estimates
      • Josh: largely close, but bugs were 2.5 ideal days
      • Brian: How do your re-organize when bugs arise?
      • Chris: workplan is not some official plan
      • Andrew: initial estimates
      • Jean-Marie: "ideal estimates"
      • Conclusion: all look at one of the active pages for agreement on how we do things
    • Graffle (Have to stop last minute updates)
      • Donald will need to change (Done last minute)
      • EM for Will. Talking tomorrow.
      • Permissions: lot of good feedback (tickets from Chris)
        • 2nd phase demo on Monday
      • FS: few things. should be able to do some advanced things at the end of this iteration.
        • get import candidates in addition to thumbnails
        • download in 2 weeks time
      • @JM, Colin: Get ready to demo the new FS features for the end of this upcoming iteration.
      • chgrp v. scripting
        • Carlos: chgrp needed right away. but needed for JCB upgrade
        • Will: big images is not such a blocker (import is probably problematic)
      • server-side history: no longer blocked. Brian has been working on other bugs in the meantime
        • @Brian demos server-side history end of this iteration
    • General position/feeling
      • bf: on track (~2 days behind but should be able to make that up)
      • perms: a bit behind on testing
      • Josh: roadmap page is very full
      • @Has roistorage been put on TaskAllocation? No yet
      • Chris: plan for BF is to begin merge into trunk during this iteration (has been isolated) for demo.
        • FS may be a good place to test the branch
    • roi storage
      • should know how well we can get SPW measurements into mongodb
      • measuring? how quickly can import and retrieve
    • @Everyone please check out the graffle after Jean-Marie upgrades
  • email/forum

    • Caitlin: need to get back to her
    • Forums: all topics are waiting on logs, samples, etc.
  • AOCB

    • Andrew added new FAQ entries
      • Jason: a reasonable set of the questions from the last year? Yes.
      • Concerted effort? +1
      • Chris: lacking on examples of doing simple things
      • Chris: we have a good number of code based samples we have written over the years. Would be nice if we have these links gathered somewhere?
      • Jason: schedule morning/long afternoon post-permissions testing
        • Then send email to the lists saything that we've updated them
    • Jason/observation
      • The scheduling of demos, talking about functionality seems to be going well
      • Try to get things done before the meeting
      • For experimental functionality (e.g. storage), make sure there are regular updates
        • WorkPlan pages: hard to see what's new
        • How can someone look at, say RoiStorage, see what happens
        • Have to find a way to communicate this: emails/forums/demos/...(something else?). Just a way to say 'this is where I am now'
      • @Examine a way to put intermediate stages on the workplan
        • New section representing the timeline
        • "Announcements" a la Twitter
        • Donald: have 3 storage pages
        • Josh: Using the "diff" links
    • Presentations
      • @Jason next week
      • Who's next?
        • CB and JM discuss a FS presentation
        • Perhaps a BF one
    • VMWare upgrade
      • Come in next couple of weeks. No squig, etc. for 1 to 1.5 days
    • Microphones
      • Little has been inaudible this time
      • They pick up more noise. (Whispering)

Action Items:

  • Chris: Send email to nitpick about patch release
  • Andrew: Do the items task needed from last week's minutes
  • Ola, Josh, Carlos: meeting to discuss metadata harvesting changes
  • Donald: send an email to OME-DEVEL about upcoming changes to ROI storage.
  • Everyone: keep up to date on the feedback to forums for ROI changes.
  • Everyone: review https://trac.openmicroscopy.org.uk/omero/wiki/WorkPlan/Permissions. This is a good example of how to link tickets/revisions tp work plan pages.
  • JM, Colin: Get ready to demo the new FS features for the end of this upcoming iteration.
  • Chris: enable the block importing from bio-formats so Will can import his large EM images.
  • Everyone: if you would like to see where BF is going (for demo) look at the test reports on Hudson.
  • Brian: ready Demo of server-side history for end of iteration.
  • Everyone: please check out the graffle after Jean-Marie upgrades
  • Everyone: please review the new FAQ questions Andrew has added to the website.
  • Everyone: schedule a meeting to gather/orgranize our code samples for the developer community.
  • Everyone: please try to get your tasks for these meetings done well in advanced!
  • Everyone: next Tuesday be ready to suggest new 'demo' things at next Tuesday's meeting.
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