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2009-08-28 OME Group Conference Call

Attending:

Agenda

  • Beatson summary

  • ASCB quick update

  • update on XSLT fun (Group A)

  • short term multi-image support - CA only solution ok?

  • QA

    • status
    • todos
  • 4.1 schedule

    • Code-gen estimate
    • Fixed-time or fixed-scope?
    • Discussion list (need to make comprehensive!)
      • code-gen --> export
      • permissions
      • QA
      • dropbox
      • hcs in insight/importer/matlab/cellprofiler
      • opengl
      • measurement tool updates, ...
      • webstart/web deployment
      • metadata completion for confocals (Leica SP2, SP5, Olympus, LIF)
    • synchronization between bio-formats and omero
  • forums and emails

Notes

  • beatson visit

    • had already installed
    • trying to figure out how to bring OMERO to the users
    • imagej analysis of interest
    • interest in micro manager ("cast off scopes")
    • good source of (diversified) feedback
  • ascb

    • blurb submitted.
    • booking hotels by the end of the month (sept)
    • who's going?
  • xslt

    • all transformations done (2008--> working copy)
    • page of questions (SchemaTranslation)
    • all stylesheets assume single pixels
    • ...few minutes missed...
    • only one range in whole schema (constraints)
      • was testing if it works
    • filters
      • filterset is currently used as a container, but may not be
      • avoiding modelling light path in entirety?
      • already modelling more than most tell us
      • who's using them (other than loci)?
      • requirement: isn't reconstructing light but having list of things.
      • don't let the order be a stopper (re: xslt)
    • analysis module
      • filtering them from the conversion?
      • supporting STD for another version (e.g. 2010-09)
    • next phase: 2003-->2008-09 done by Andrew
    • organizing www.ome-xml.org (DeveloperInfo, etc.)
      • reducing amount of info on front page
  • short-term multi-image support

    • sent 2 proposals: STD & SA
    • using 2003FC anyway.
    • requiring an upgrade for support from us?
    • get a ticket on trac?
      • everything should be a ticket
      • See new "proposal" component
    • anyone participating should upgrade
  • QA

    • 80-90% done
    • need validator
    • josh generates test data
    • pointing all clients at QA?
      • yes, need versions to work against QA for testing
    • missing testengine results
      • Brian: should be straight-forward
      • on file-by-file basis.
      • need to agree on message
    • way for demo server accounts?
      • added a register user page
    • any barrier to deploying the above? no.
    • need testing. when ready for testing?
    • integrating validator
    • collecting metrics (from hudson runs)
      • imagine for ascb visual
  • 4.1

    • date from last week: Oct. 15

    • code-gen: on track to have stylesheets done

      • code-gen can start
      • but not clear how long it will take.
      • should be able to do the simple image export
    • codegen:

      • not generating the mapping files or the walkers
      • but having the files in place to export to XML
      • Donald: but where's the end to this?
        • right now everyone is steeped in the XML
        • can do things more efficiently now.
      • Chris: can't afford to break the OMERO API now.
      • won't help us with the import stability
      • Donald: wasn't the point of group B codegen?
      • Chris: xslt solves > 1/2 the problem. only supporting single schema
      • Jason: current release isn't usable by 75% of the market
      • Ever more things are code against our API
        • Need notifications by when?
      • Josh: breaking everything as 5.0?
        • hard to manage branches
      • Jean-Marie: data-in/data-out was the task
        • also companion file with all the metadata
        • middle ground to make lots happy.
        • 6 weeks, freeze in 4...
      • Donald: code-gen to prevent breaking API
        • point: getting distracted, don't want to forget all this
        • Jean-Marie: slow it down, not like XSLT where we do nothing else
        • doing whole rework over 6 months? etc.
      • Jason: get through user-driven list, and then decide on how to do next steps
        • moving to NDIM structure?
    • fixed-time / fixed-scope

      • time.
      • missing some targets from Paris (data duplication)
      • metadata completion is more non-incorrectness
      • cF. companion file
    • Features

      • A: export to OME-TIFF
      • A: metadata in/out
      • A: QA
      • A: opengl : only focuses on viewer
        • realistic for time frame
      • A: hcs : in general
        • insight / importer * visualization * small set of hcs files * largely done for visualization * lacking rois * adjustment of measurement tool. only thing for this stage * rois are largely preview in 4.1 * loading from server, getting table, etc.
        • matlab * available by default (java)
        • C: cellprofiler * a bit too much? * DEMO for ASCB? 4.1.1? No, more 4.2. Something new introduced. * Extending ImageJ at the same time * 4.1 doesn't have good roi support; want to do it well.
      • B: dropbox
        • lots of small things, hopefully out of the way by end of next last week
        • mounts ghislain's email: what's possible
        • main problem: how to cope with mount disappearing/reconnecting
        • Chris: isn't a local filesystem, won't be able to watch
        • would need to setup a remote fs instance
        • Josh: that's a second node. no problem.
        • need work on documentation. clear, illustrated, ...
        • Colin: should be okay for end of sept. tied to mount systems. * Chris: either local or remote. * Jason: needed before then. 2 weeks. * stayed focus.
      • C: permissions ~ lots of testing! needed by mid-september
        • Broke more stuff than we thought
      • C: webstart/web deployment
      • FLIM
        • DEMO'ing at best. keep it going, but not for releases.
    • personnel

      • Donald: in codegen, opengl, measurement. Etc.
      • Everyone come back with estimates please.
      • Need calendar of what by when for next 4-5 weeks.
    • groups

      • roi:
      • permissions: brian on GUI
    • next phase

      • cF. FLIM email-->proposal-->haven't followed up (4.2 is coming)
        • Proposal(s) by end of next week. ("punt" on table.)
        • "Provisional" for February
        • Going to be a challenge.
    • all jars: release should be synchronized

      • regularly synchronizing already.
      • on every "stable" release?
  • forums/emails

    • need "Hello World" for coding on Insight
    • how much configuration do we permit?
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