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2009-07-03 OME Group Conference Call

Attending: Andrew, Jean-Marie, Curtis, Kevin, Melissa, Carlos, Colin, Chris, Josh, Ola, Donald, Will

Agenda

  • Visit to Imperial College London, London, UK

    • Discussion Points
      • FLIM
        • Points/Questions
          • New Dimension 'D' for Distribution
          • Multi channel
          • Multi Z
          • Multi detectors
          • Bin Width (how is it defines, is it uniform)
          • Time periods between scans
          • Duration of scans
          • Tracing time (Horizontal,Vertical,Left,Right)
          • Instrument Response Function
        • Diagrams (proposed new values in red) - NewLifetime-FriMeeting.pdf
      • Community Evolvement - covered in Wednesday UI Meeting by Scott
      • Other imaging modes/detectors (general future data discussion)

  • Demo system

  • Website

    • FAQ
      • ...still live but keep adding new questions.
      • different subheaders? (easy for user not for us)
      • detailed descriptions or not?
      • Please don't add answers to the list!
      • Reviewing (checking links, etc.); general website review schedule?
    • Forum spam
    • more text at site/community? images?
  • 4.0.4

    • status
  • 4.1

    • Report - Group A:
    • Report - Group B:
  • Misc

    • Model changes & branches
    • Outstanding emails & forum posts:
      • http://lists.openmicroscopy.org.uk/pipermail/ome-users/2009-June/001884.html
      • http://lists.openmicroscopy.org.uk/pipermail/ome-users/2009-June/001917.html
    • Videos
    • licenses. GPL review.
    • fs issues
    • java/windows issues
  • fun dicussions

Notes

  • Lifetime meeting at Imperial

    • 2 category of changes
      • changes to allow to store additional planes of data in sensible way
      • values from instrument to do calculations: bin, width, etc.
    • how to find the proper level for attachment
    • relation to spectral lifetime?
      • currently only adding one dimension
      • supporting N-dimensions?
      • enumeration is N!
      • bigger discussion. off-meeting? 1400BST Monday
    • write proposal (as with SPW)
      • submit to several groups
      • see what they need
      • repeat
    • prepairing demo system
  • Community evolvement at Imperial

    • How data model relates to wider workflow
    • relations to editor, etc.
  • Website

    • headers: simplifying? only shows one-level deep.
      • files / clients / server?
      • datamodel / applications?
      • biologists / sysadmins / developers?
      • by date?
      • How? / What? / Where? / When?
      • ... no solution. Send an email if it's important to you.
    • detailed question: omit
    • review process
      • trac urls with search parameters? (keeping them up-to-date)
      • have to use /site/...; not ../../
      • @Andrew sends an email with instructions
      • whoever doesn't do their questions must do the reviews
      • no excuses: do your FAQ. find it on the mailing list.
      • similar to model review: every so many months
    • forum spam : more options to captcha? moderating account creation?
      • keep deleting
    • /site/community
  • 4.0.4

    • decided on Wed., 4.0.4 should have been client only.
    • now it requires server for LSM
    • 4.1 release in October
    • Testing a group in Sept
    • Bigger than anticipated
  • 4.1 : Group A

    • Still working on sending the data. Should be done Monday with sending full feedback
    • Testing Monday (late) or Tuesday (morning) to show on Wednesday Test results
  • 4.1 : Group B

    • No progress on code generation
    • StructuredAnnotations hasn't been done yet.
    • Key/KeyRefs being put in at the top-level
    • Getting rid of all ID elements
    • ExcitationFilters, etc. multiple links to objects with special namespace
    • Model review beginning of August (All changes in)
    • Starting next week on the code generation stack (XSLT)
    • Need to think about breaking changes
      • What goes into 4.1, what's 4.2?
      • Needs lots of testing
      • Also need to get the metadata for manually testing
  • misc

    • Insitutional resources email. @Chris responds
    • will did 3 videos. donald did 2.
      • need to speed up the movie pipeline
      • can be simple, but they need to be compressed. (consistent codecs)
    • licenses:
      • need to get bioformats licenses in
      • javascript discussion: "if not altered, s'ok. ... but ajax calls?"
      • a few jquery are GPL/commercial. need to see what we can replace
      • are any of the jquery scripts altered? simpletree (BSD)
      • giving changes back to the owner?
      • everyone modifies README and discusses on GPL-like code
    • fs : shouldn't be bouncing now
    • java 1.6 : more than just Windows (also Linux)
      • (deep in AWT) on component resizing
      • http://bugs.sun.com/view_bug.do?bug_id=6819343
      • only on screen-view...
      • probably won't be able to get everyone to upload.
      • very tricky
      • need to be very open about it.
      • Chris can only trigger it with SPW
      • Perhaps where things get shrunk down.
      • catching exception and saying "upgrade java"
  • fun discussion

    • how to come to resolution on these longer discussions?
    • should always come to these discussions with material/links
    • Tuesday 1400 BST talk about these issues.
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