2009-04-24 OMERO Conference Call

Agenda

• Project Wide versus Omero Meetings (Jason)

• OMERO 4.0.2

  • Little more process: updating the REGISTRY version number.

• ImageJ Support

• Website

• Paris

  • Presentations and such?

• Importer/Bio-formats

  • Handling corrupted DV log files.
  • Feedback for Melissa

• Beta 4.1 review

  • Jason asks: "Do we stop now and consolidate? Slow down or keep banking ahead? (And did I mention the videos?)"
  • Iter2: Stories planned
    • As a user, I can query ROI geometries. (#1306)
    • As a user, I can export a movie as MPEGs with existing rdefs, no timestamps, no scale bars
    • As a developer, I have testing machines on Linux/XP/Vista
    • As a developer, I can see which formats currently work
    • As a developer, I can query ROIs on the server (#1306)
    • FS over samba on mac
    • As a developer, I can see which formats currently work
    • As a user, I want to be able to import any supported single file format from FS from Mac over Samba
    • As a user, I will have a forum that I can refer to to communicate the community (with CAPTCHAS)
    • As developers, we need to have one common gateway for web/litz in python
    • As a a developer, I can use OpenGL from the viewer
    • Tutorial: Copying settings
    • Tutorial: movies and demo for SPW
    • As a user I can import a ROI from SC1000 or LSM
    • As a user, I can import my gels with metadata
  • Discussion
    • Changing focus for last 2 weeks. What can be published? PREVIEW only?
    • General focus for 4.2 and where to put the catchall tickets?
    • 1326 - Adding a way to have new thumbnails automatically added makes sense, but doing it before Paris ("4.1") will be difficult. We need to have a review discussion about priorities for paris before Friday. (from Josh)

! Attending

• Andrew, Carlos, Dundee, Josh, Melissa, Ola

! Notes

• Meetings

  • Everyone join every week and leave if not interested?
  • Transitioning to non-specific meetings. On NITPICK?

• ImageJ

  • Done. Committed to tools/OmeroImageJ
  • Working. Need to discuss some small details. (session keep alive)
  • Looking into Loci plugin
  • Jean-Marie sends email to Curtis
  • Melissa: if using readers/writers, then wouldn't have to modify any/much code

• 4.0.2

  • Insight Bugs: minor insight bug, one open bug under windows
  • Import Bugs: waiting on files, 4.0.0/1 issue also, corrupted log files,
  • Server Bugs: delete API
  • Problem handling problem?
  • Distinction between corrupt log files and log files
  • Feedback has to be logged (tangent)
    • Especially quickly when we need user interaction.
    • Send emails etc. within a day.
    • Attempt to keep users happy. 24 hour response as often as possible.
  • Error-handling
    • Need to make it as robust as possible
    • Won't be able to produce all exception caces
    • Not (just) error->send data->repair loop
    • For 4.0.2? Not really.
  • Import is where we are most exposed to what we can't control
    • We're going to break import all the time.
    • Even though we do our homework.
    • Solutions:
    • Melissa into feedback system. (EASY)
    • More info in exceptions (file name, type, etc.) (MEDIUM)
    • Upload the bad files! (HARD)
  • Plan:
    • Upgrading all bio-format jars
    • Running against LSMs
    • Release Monday (@Josh sends email)

• Website

  • doesn't yet have a dump of the site (odd plugin issues)
  • virtual machines are being finished (testing & forums: phpbb)
  • design underway

• paris

  • each minigroup comes up with list of what they want to get out
  • determine which bullet points based on attendees
  • emphasize input from community. (Less from us)
  • need a dinner location where groups are kept together, posters, etc. (19th)

• review

  • 4.0
    • huge changes, lots of software
    • reduced usability testing
    • frustrating to be getting the negative feedback
    • testing should be scaled at least linearly if not exponentially with sophistication
    • usage is being scaled as well
  • 4.1
    • largely created after 4.0 strictly due to paris
    • maybe need to slow down, clean things up, make all the great stuff we have visible
    • videos: underrepresenting what we do & 4 weeks late.
      • of windows install?
      • chris has rendering movie
    • stuff we already have:
      • screen-plate-well
      • imagej
      • gateway
      • movie exports
    • "distractions"
      • scripting
      • FLIM
      • ...
    • windows
      • under estimated the number of people installing on windows
      • week on click-click installer
      • the docs have cost us at least a week
    • also: opengl, roi (pixel masks ~ mini-group), ...
    • "more professional": can't go back to our old ways
  • 4.2
    • editor in database to prevent scaling issues (?)

• 4.1 plan

  • movie exports are done : run scripts, sends email to user and attaches to original file (re: Colin F.)
  • screencasts looking at aperture for ideas (@andrew emails josh) > 20
  • build & install
  • prepairing for paris : pamphlets
  • roi viewer if possible

• Stories:

  • As a user, I can query ROI geometries. (#1306) - DONE
  • As a user, I can export a movie as MPEGs with existing rdefs, no timestamps, no scale bars - DONE
  • As a developer, I have testing machines on Linux/XP/Vista - DONE
  • As a developer, I can see which formats currently work - NOT
  • FS over samba on mac - NOT
  • As a user, I want to be able to import any supported single file format from FS from Mac over Samba - NOT
  • As a user, I will have a forum that I can refer to to communicate the community (with CAPTCHAS) - DONE
  • As developers, we need to have one common gateway for web/litz in python - DONE (tests/epydoc)
  • As a a developer, I can use OpenGL from the viewer - NOT
  • Tutorial: Copying settings - DONE (cleanup in final cut)
  • Tutorial: movies and demo for SPW - DONE (unpublished)
  • As a user I can import a ROI from SC1000 or LSM - DONE
  • As a user, I can import my gels with metadata - DONE (need more datasets

• 4.2

  • TO ADD:
    • installer
    • FLIM

In Attendance: Chris, Josh, Jean-Marie, Ola, Andrew, Donald, Melissa, Scott, Brian, Jason, Carlos.

• Talk about changing to overall meets on Friday. Will discuss again with Kevin and crew next week
• Most ImageJ done. Talk about using loci importer but it needs some adjustment. JM will talk it over with Curtis.
• Josh suggested adding an upload file option to feedback
• Making some changes to feedback and adding Melissa to the system
• Releasing 4.0.2 on Monday. This fixes the server delete bug.
• Andrew is working on the website.
• Wednesday meeting established some sort of website layout which Andrew will show us asap.
• Chris is working on forums and will show us soon.
• Chris also working on XP server test accounts.
• Follow up on new formats coming up from suppliers.
• Would be nice to talk to the community before Paris to get some good feeback we can respond to at the meeting.
• Sounds like we will have have a buffet style dinner around posters for Paris Tuesday night. The goal for Paris is listening to users more with us not presenting all the time.
• Scottish EDITK informatics meeting. Dundee folks, check emails and register!
• Do we want to solidify our efforts now and not create new stuff before Paris? Yes! Will work on polishing our professionalism. ROI's on hold, may drop some other stuff if needed like openGL.
• Videos still need to be worked on. We should break up these and spread out the work. Insight is now too big just for JM alone, for example.
• Windows install needs work. Maybe it's time to get the MSI/EXE installer going? Yes! Priority for the next few weeks.
• Movie exports almost done and will be finished by Paris.