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2008-08-07 Project-wide 3:45 BST

Attending: Andrew, Brian, Chris, Curtis, Josh, Melissa, Ola, Will, Jason, Guest1

Notes


  • Will
    • moving code over
    • trying to follow agent structure

  • Chris
    • cleaning up thumbnails
    • 100-fold speed increases
    • cleaning up last bits of projections

  • Andrew
    • examining optionals on all types
    • units column for all the various elements
    • going to start modifying the schema files
    • where to put the units information & keep them in sync
    • Andrew: difficulty of writing a parser
    • Brian: better to have everyone convert into the standard
      • Curtis: 90% of the time. physical image width/type & microns
    • LED? Need to ask Kevin and Jason
    • Adding pinhole size? (open 4 months ago)
    • Curtis: Did you look at supported field document?
      • Yes. Start using it in combination with spreadsheet

  • Curtis
    • OME-JAVA in CVS
      • unclear to the outside world
      • In Dundee or Wisconsin
      • Chris: Curtis, ping me tomorrow. Part of the work my be done
      • On OME's svn?
      • OME-RPC in OME's
      • OME-XML in Loci's
      • ~14:00 ?
      • After that, Curtis is on vacation for 2 weeks

  • Alexa
    • Generally working with sharing
    • List of things that are unclear how to change
    • Josh: Possibly "TextAnnotation" will change for comments

  • Josh
    • emails about services. No response.
    • Chris: dealing with mail, probably sooner rather than later
    • XMPP...
      • usage statistics
      • optional chat service, or set up your own (wiki page)
      • writing an authentication plugin for openfire
      • Josh: comparison to email. organizing threads
      • Curtis: facebook model? "here are all the things that have happened since..."
      • Will: nice to be able to see it in insight
      • Curtis: Most robust is to have state of all events seen...
      • Jason: most important is to be able to notify user of
        • "analysis has {started,finished}"
        • "server-side import has ..."
        • cool, but let's keep focus on ...
        • Ola, you want to be able to say who's logged in? Only in terms of who's in session.
        • Chris: issue with any instant messaging.
      • Lot of work
      • Client/server application like Eclipse, you still would use Adium
        • Brian: but if it's integrated, I'd use it
      • Jason: lab is constantly emailing figures back and forth. 50+ emails with screenshots
        • Chris: "EMAIL IS NOT A FILE TRANSFER PROTOCOL"
      • The things we need:
        • As a user I need to know what the server thinks it's doing with my stuff
        • Server-side import system
        • like growl
      • Josh: From the server perspective, messages will be produced, then
        • do we have an API for our clients to do something AND/OR
        • do we push out to existing clients.
        • Brian: would be nice if it was a standard format that our clients will understand
          • asking for trouble if we do our own customized stuff
        • Jason: I agree; would it be acceptable to have something go to growl "job foo is x% done"?
          • Could go to jabber or our clients could pick up on it?
          • Will: problem with just sending email/jabber is having a link to click on (but in webclient)
    • Ola: could replace sending emails
      • When I handle error on webclient, it sends an email
      • Connecting to the server, it takes times to connect; the action/notification could be slow
        • Re: email servers
    • Issues
      • Tech without clear requirements.
      • Some ideas about how we want to connect
        • "Email someone about a share"
        • Need to be open to other ways of making it happen (avoid 150 emails / day?)
      • Multiple ways of passing notifications
      • Nice to have a simple facility that anyone can access
      • Ola: I generally vote on some internal messaging system, inside OMERO
        • Messaging should be outside of transactions

  • Brian
    • Working on testing system
    • Tweaking .ini files
    • Curtis: have something similar in testng
      • reads everything in a directory
      • looks for .bio config files, to skip certain files etc.
      • Melissa has been updating the configuration files
      • on a very big directory it eventually dies
      • need a sensible subset of our formats
        • first-time population
        • then run a diff for any new files
        • thinking about testng: we should chat, becasuse hard to run all tests on one file and then next.
    • MD5 comparing what to what?
      • Compares to itself. Run once and produce a MD5 list.
      • Curtis: MD5 gotcha - implementation difference in Java mac/non-mac on jpegs.

  • Melissa
    • bioformats now writes OME-XML with pixels (and reads them back in!)
    • cool!
    • dealing with metadata for real?
      • not quite yet, a couple more bugs
      • early next week, we can start talking about it
      • "do we support as complete metadata as we can" (auditing)

  • OMERO
    • Aug. 15th everyone in Dundee back from holiday?
    • Seems that way
    • Schedule a face-to-face meeting
    • BBQ on the 15th? 1OM
    • Morning meeting? 10AM? Yes. Room to be determined.

  • Abstract, ASCB
    • OME-XML, BioFormats, OME-TIFF, OMERO, ...
    • Lot of us; how to get us all in the author line
    • Can't do "The OME Consortium"
    • Ok. Try everone, failling that just Jason. Will explain issue to Cell Biology and that there are consortiums
    • next to micromanager?
    • Andrew can you take charge again? Including hotel rooms

  • Note the mysterious attendee, Guest1


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